CSI + Prison Break + X-Files = FRINGE

[Gryffes]

Yeah just checked - it's all "olivia can open a door" "you may be able to open a crack" etc etc.

No "there's a crack open/door open/your moms open brb in 2 mins" dialogue.

[Rhyis.]

Bell said Oliva would open the door earlier so he didn't have to explain to Walter, at that moment, that he was going to give his life so they could cross over. You can call it a plot hole if you want, but that's how I perceived the whole thing happening when I was watching it. Bell wanted to do a noble deed for Walter, without having to draw attention to it until it was necessary.

[Gryffes]

Yeah it could easily be explained in the future ( s3 ), or have been something like that - but to pretend like the dialogue doesn't clash w/ the events is just inane. Arguing about it however is even stupider

[Amiricle]

Yeah it could easily be explained in the future ( s3 ), or have been something like that - but to pretend like the dialogue doesn't clash w/ the events is just inane. Arguing about it however is even stupider

Rechecked after my post and I concede lol. I heard or remembered that dialogue scene wrong, so yea small plothole.

Also, I really hope Leonard Nemoy repops in season 3 despite his retirement.

[fishstix]

Didn't realize it from the last episode, but I like how they gave Otherlivia a fringe cut for her bangs. I knew the twist was coming, even replayed the scene to see what color jackets each were wearing (they switched after the explosion), but yeah, I think it's a plothole too.

[Hellfury]

I have been playing catch-up on this show after my exams finished.
This had me greatly amused!

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ngeEdition.jpg

(Season 2, Episode 19 when they're at the bridge)

[Deftscythe]

i don't get it. Is it a Lost reference?

[Clauz]

i don't get it. Is it a Lost reference?

C3P0(star wars)

[Deftscythe]

Oh wow. The 1s really threw me off.

[Jex]

I want to get into it but is this show any that good?

[fishstix]

If you like x-files, twists, JJ Abrams' style, lensflares, I'm sure you'll love the show.

[Acturus]

I want to get into it but is this show any that good?

The first season does a very good job of presenting you, the viewer, with a very good X-files knockoff.

The second season then does everything in its power to take everything you thought you knew from the first season, and turns it on its ear.

[Tyche]

A bit spoilery. Pretty intriguing revelation regarding a Nimoy return.

[Scythiroth]

Fall seems so far away. =(

[GRT]

I love the little jab at Lost.

[Qalbert]

some new spoilerish info
http://blastr.com/2010/08/8-things-you-need-to-know.php

Spoiler: show

You're going to feel sorry for "Walternate"


When you met the Walter Bishop from "Over There," he seemed like a real d-bag. You've got to understand, though, our Walter really screwed him over by stealing his son and wrecking his universe.

"I understand why he is like he is, but we've got to get the audiences to understand that as well," Noble said. "At this stage, he may appear to be a bit arch, but he's a man that's family's stolen away from him, so I've got to humanize him. It's a really interesting challenge. It's a brilliant opportunity. Coming from the same place, what happens if you respond differently to circumstances, which is what he does? It's really interesting, and I'm just really keen that even though you're kind of crossed with this iron man, that there are reasons that he's like he is. Somehow to expose those to people, whether they like him or not doesn't matter. At least to understand why he's like he is, that's really important. We'll get there."


Every other episode this year is Over There


This year we're really going to get to see a lot of the alternate universe, so much so that Joshua Jackson doesn't even work each week.

"We'll spend our time over there where everybody's messing with our Olivia, and then over here we have this crazy double agent in our midst," Jackson said. "One, three, five, seven, nine. Every odd-numbered episode. I'm jealous of that [opportunity], and then on the flip side, it's really nice to have every other episode off. So I have a funny feeling I'll get over it."


Walternate is torturing Olivia


When Other Olivia dyed her hair blond, she came back to our world with Peter and Walter. That left our Olivia behind as a prisoner of Walternate.

"The other one is using Olivia, is using her quite callously as an enemy soldier," Noble said. "He thinks in terms of soldiers, so for him, Olivia is a soldier behind the lines and this one is an enemy soldier to be manipulated as much as possible. So it's a tough relationship. It's much more a wartime mentality."


Peter and Walter almost come to blows


Are you still reeling from the "Peter" episode, like we are? Now that Peter's come back from Over There, Walter's still got to deal with the betrayal he perpetrated. They still work together, but it's tenser than ever.

"We did a scene the other day, this beautiful scene between the two of us that was like two men wanting so badly to touch, but they couldn't," Noble said. "They couldn't. The tension was amazing. It's something we talk about every day. How would they treat each other now? There's still a bond, but he's been duped. Peter's been really badly duped. So where's trust? It's a path that Josh Jackson and I are just treading lightly, trying to find the truth of it with the support of our writers. I don't know, it's almost, you have to think, how would you respond? How would you respond if someone you loved and you'd learned to trust when you trusted no one had been doing that to you? Josh and I are just treading the line, trying to be realistic. You can't go, 'All is forgiven, it's fine.'"

More icky, gooey creatures in the lab


All this plot stuff doesn't mean there's no crazy science. It's still Fringe. Noble is having fun with the weekly creatures they put on Walter's slab.

"It's just second nature," Noble said. "It's the little boy in me. They bring out toys for me to play with, so I do, and they're all prosthetics. They're not real ones."


It's still funny


Also, with all this talk about war prisoners and tension, don't worry that this might be a dark, serious season. Walter will still go off on tangents, riffing off the slightest subject.

"There's been obviously funny moments, absolutely," Noble said. "You can't help but have those. In episode two we had quite a few of them. The foil that Walter provides in our show means that even when he's being deadly serious, he's what he is. That's one of the things that J.J. created in the beginning quite deliberately. That's not going to go away, any more than it's lightened up by the reactions that others have to him. The way that Astrid looks after him, for example, is very cute and very funny, and her tolerance for him. So those elements will remain there. We don't want to become a bleak, dank, dark, boring show. I wouldn't want to be involved in that. There'll always be wit in there, I hope. There'll always be humor."


Peter's got plans for Walternate's weapon


Peter learned that he has a special connection to the weapon Walternate was hiding. Now that Peter's returned to our universe, he's determined to use that power for good and not evil.

"A large part of the reason why he came back, when he was introduced to this machine, the thing, he was told, 'Your fate is to be the thing that makes this weapon go,'" Jackson said. "I have to believe that this thing that is so hard and complex to make has to be more than just purely a weapon. I think Peter realized that Walternate had already made up his mind what the thing is, and he'd never be able to have a chance to figure it out on his own. I think, on this side, he thinks he might be able to change his own fate."


The two Walters will meet, if John Noble has a say


One thing on Noble's wish list is an encounter between Walter and Walternate. We know they can do the special effects, because they had the two Olivias meet. This last one is a maybe, but he's the star of the show, and it's an awesome idea, so they should listen.

"I hope that there will be a clash between the two Walters," Noble said. "There was between the two Olivias, which I thought was terrific. I love the technical aspects. I really do. It's a lot of work, but it's creating magic. It's creating absolute magic. Bear in mind I did Lord of the Rings, which was all scale doubles. To me it's amazing what film can do to create those images."

[Insanecyclone]

Season 3 begins September 23rd with 22 episodes.

During the first half of the season, odd-numbered episodes will take place 'over there' while even-numbered episodes will take place on 'our' side.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fringe_%28season_3%29

44 1 "Olivia" September 23, 2010 (2010-09-23)

[fren.]

Holy shit, that went by ....fast

[Scythiroth]

During the first half of the season, odd-numbered episodes will take place 'over there' while even-numbered episodes will take place on 'our' side.

Interesting way of doing it, really looking forward to new episodes.

[Saga]

T minus 6 days and counting. I'm so going to bust a nut next Thursday, been waiting for this for fucking ever.