CSI + Prison Break + X-Files = FRINGE

[fren.]

The oldschool opening theme gets me everytime. So awesome.

[Baelorn]

How will Fringe follow up its flashback episode "Subject 13"? Last year, it followed up "Peter" with the mythology-heavy episode "Olivia. In the Lab. With the Revolver," which established a great deal about the Jacksonville trials as well as about the mysteriously slippery character Sam Weiss. What will we be seeing when Fringe returns for the episode "Os" in two weeks? According to the show's producers, something "really unexpected [and] new to you."

When a writer of Fringe says that, you know he's not kidding around.

http://tvovermind.zap2it.com/fox/fri...u-coming/49761

This episode won't air until March 11th. Hopefully Fringe doesn't lose more viewers after a hiatus on Friday.

[Baelorn]

New promo.

[Biggie]

Was there not a new episode on last night?

[Scythiroth]

Was there not a new episode on last night?

Nope, returns next Friday.

[Enygma55]

the NAACP awards were on last friday. That ending was very subtle but awesome nonetheless.

Random tidbit I caught: Green Lantern is Red Lantern in the other universe

[Insanecyclone]

Hurley!

Aww shit @ ending.

[SamanosukeShiva]

LOL @ the end

[NotGreyheim]

Spoiler: show

For a second it sounded like she was channeling Sean Connery. I don't think I like this new development :/

[Deftscythe]

Don't like the twist at the end.

[Baelorn]

Don't like the twist at the end.

Really? I loved it. I'm glad that they had Anna Torv do the lines too instead of doing lip-sync.

Next week's promo looks good too.

[Saga]

this show has officially jumped the shark, what the hell.

[Tidane]

Uh, really? Perhaps you were watching a different show. This is exactly the type of thing the show has always been about. Weird and implausible science.

[Saga]

Uh, really? Perhaps you were watching a different show. This is exactly the type of thing the show has always been about. Weird and implausible science.

sorry, I should probably clarify. yes, they've done weird and implausible science, mostly with cool effects or at least convincing effects to make it believable. Olivia's "William Bell" voice is fucking atrocious, and in no way do I buy into it. you can hear her trying to act it out. typically this show's been able to suspend my disbelief, because while it's all radical and impossible in real life, there's at least some explanation to it. there was no wow factor, there was no crazy scene. Liv heard the bell tone and oh, all of a sudden William Bell's soul takes over her body, la de dah, no frills, just like that.

my main qualm is with the voice, really, that's it. it was a bad mechanic to re-introduce Bell. also, it's stupid that William Bell left an actual bell as the mechanism to call him back into the chosen host. it's not clever or interesting at this point, it's just retarded.

[GRT]

wow, i hate to see popular shows crash and burn like Heroes did but god damn

has this show been renewed yet? not sure if want

[Null]

Hurley! They should've had Hurley be William Bell.

[Qalbert]

^oh god this

[Laugana]

That's what I thought too. I thought the cameo at the beginning was a precurser to being the new host. I fully expected him to walk through the door at the end lol.

[Tidane]

sorry, I should probably clarify. yes, they've done weird and implausible science, mostly with cool effects or at least convincing effects to make it believable.

In that case, I see your point, but I don't agree with it entirely.

Spoiler: show

The idea that Bell would pick Olivia makes sense (although, I was hoping that he would use Walter, as seeing John Noble do Leonard Nimoy would be great).

I don't believe that there needs to be flashy effects for everything, but I do think that the mechanic they used was a bit strange/off. The way I read it was ringing the bell acted as a trigger that alerted Bell's soul to seek out the "soul magnets". In my mind, I want to say that his soul should've went to the magnets as soon as he died, with the bell acting as a trigger to "awaken" him. Either way, I think the simplicity of the entire thing is what makes it seem wrong. "Ring a bell, someone gets possessed?" What seems to bother you is that we didn't see anything that goes into creating the situation, nor did we see anything unusual happen to make it occur. I do agree with that, to an extent. When you consider the way they've done nearly everything else, it seems like a cop-out.

[Saga]

In that case, I see your point, but I don't agree with it entirely.

Spoiler: show

The idea that Bell would pick Olivia makes sense (although, I was hoping that he would use Walter, as seeing John Noble do Leonard Nimoy would be great).

I don't believe that there needs to be flashy effects for everything, but I do think that the mechanic they used was a bit strange/off. The way I read it was ringing the bell acted as a trigger that alerted Bell's soul to seek out the "soul magnets". In my mind, I want to say that his soul should've went to the magnets as soon as he died, with the bell acting as a trigger to "awaken" him. Either way, I think the simplicity of the entire thing is what makes it seem wrong. "Ring a bell, someone gets possessed?" What seems to bother you is that we didn't see anything that goes into creating the situation, nor did we see anything unusual happen to make it occur. I do agree with that, to an extent. When you consider the way they've done nearly everything else, it seems like a cop-out.

Spoiler: show

Yeah exactly, the simplicity of it, and the fact that nothing was shown about Willy's soul doing something funky after he died or something. I just don't feel like any of this was planned out. Season 1, they'd present something weird but critical to the plot, you had no clue what it was, find out later something neat like oh shit, Walter's the author of ZFT. This season, it's just lost its surprise for me. Maybe they didn't need any special effects for the soul transference or whatever, but it's gotten to the point where Walter mentions something about soul magnets four episodes ago, and it's really not hard to predict that Bell is gonna make a reappearance at some point, because why else would they even mention soul magnets in the first place?

And maybe they did that in the first season, mention something and it comes back later to actually happen. But there was always a twist to it, somewhere in the middle usually. Here, the twist is at the end, and it's a poorly executed twist. Walter's just like, "William posited that the soul lives on after death, and that if you injected these things in yourself, you could capture the soul and store it in soul magnets, then trigger the soul to move into its host using a trigger object!" Aaaaaand...that's exactly what happened. Oh wow, it's Olivia. Crazy.

I just think the show's lost some of it's magic and needs a new mechanic. The whole "well, long ago, William and I posited that blah blah blah." As soon as they say that, based just on every other episode in the season, you know it's a true statement or that it's actually happening or going to happen. With the individual cases the team works on, that model is fine. But for enormous plot points, it's not surprising anymore and it's become predictable and frankly, a little boring. That's just how I feel about it.

Everyone obviously recognized Hurley, but fuck yeah Cameron from Ferris Bueller's Day Off!