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    I don't think Olivia has been a shapeshifter all along; I believe they kidnapped her when she went to the bathroom. So she just arrived there.

    As to how long Nina has been replaced; I've no idea.

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    ^ my line of thinking as well.

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    Yeah it wasn't really that hard to figure out. But a solid EP nonetheless, and next week's looks fucking awesome too.

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    I don't think Nina was kidnapped by lincoln and walter, Nina has been locked up much longer than Olivia. Remember Nina drugging Olivia with Cortexiphan? That was obviously shapeshifting Nina. I think Olivia was kidnapped in the bathroom.


    Also, a month break after the next episode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Also, a month break after the next episode.
    Really? Son of a bitch, how many mid-season breaks are they going to take?.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddle Sticks View Post
    Really? Son of a bitch, how many mid-season breaks are they going to take?.......
    Meh, seeing as how the show isn't going down the shitter like many have been after a few seasons, I much prefer to wait a few more weeks to have well written episodes rather than them rushing filler episodes that make no sense. I find it amazing how Fringe just gets more and more awesome as it goes when the other way around is usually the norm.

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    When's sweeps usually? They're probably dragging out the episodes so there's one showing during that period.

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    pretty sure sweeps is nowish

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    Calling it now:
    The observers have a weird unknown written language and travel through time-space or something. The machine had a weird unknown written language, affects time-space and was made by Walter. Observers were made by Walter! Or he has something to do with them.

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    Observers are probably "the first people" that were mentioned in, I think, season 3?

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    Ratings look pretty bad with Fringe right now, on the bubble now apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Datonare View Post
    Observers are probably "the first people" that were mentioned in, I think, season 3?
    I thought the whole first people thing was fake when we found out that walter created the machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordender View Post
    Ratings look pretty bad with Fringe right now, on the bubble now apparently.
    On Wikipedia, it doesn't look much worse than last season. I have no idea what their cutoff is for shows though.

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    would seem like the perfect show to get picked up by sci-fi channel even if fox canceled it, though

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    Ugh, they'd probably butcher it to death.

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    The best part of Fringe is, they wrote the ending first. All along they have had an end point in mind.
    If they want to keep dragging things out they could, however in a pinch the could tie up story and just end it. Trying to stretch out this show into another X-Files was never their intention.
    Hopefully they just let it end. So few networks allow shows to reach their natural conclusion. As long as it doesn't go the direction Prison Break went, they cannot go wrong.

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    Tonites episode was a bit underwhelming but opened up alot more interesting stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takiwaki View Post
    Tonites episode was a bit underwhelming but opened up alot more interesting stuff.
    This. I was a little let down, I was expecting so much more... I also thought the scene with Peter being inside the Observer's brain was kind of cheesy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddle Sticks View Post
    This. I was a little let down, I was expecting so much more... I also thought the scene with Peter being inside the Observer's brain was kind of cheesy.
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    Well it fits since they have done it multiple times before. I do honestly think the reason September thinks Peter is so important is that he is a distant descendant of Peter and Olivia. By interrupting things he ceases to exist in any possible version of the futures. Since they can exist outside of time it has not affected him but he cannot return to his original time. Or maybe that version of the future where the observers do evolve from us just do not happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisada View Post
    would seem like the perfect show to get picked up by sci-fi channel even if fox canceled it, though
    SyFy can't even keep its own good shows on the air half the time. They do not have the money to spend on Fringe. Unfortunately, if Fox cancels it, its done. Unless Abrams turns it into a movie to finish the story out (which he is more than capable of doing, except he has projects out the ass and a Star Trek commitment to fulfil for paramount.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Takiwaki View Post
    Tonites episode was a bit underwhelming but opened up alot more interesting stuff.
    Quote Originally Posted by Takiwaki View Post
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    Well it fits since they have done it multiple times before. I do honestly think the reason September thinks Peter is so important is that he is a distant descendant of Peter and Olivia. By interrupting things he ceases to exist in any possible version of the futures. Since they can exist outside of time it has not affected him but he cannot return to his original time. Or maybe that version of the future where the observers do evolve from us just do not happen.
    I too was a bit ... underwhelmed.
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    Mostly with the lack of any real information that came out of the episode. I think the Nina Doppleganger thing was kind of poopooed off like it was simpler than it was. The fact that the evil bastard was "invulnerable" was also left to lay there like a dead fish because of the other ramifications at the end. I do like your theory about September, but honestly I think its simpler than that. Remember to "fix" the timeline originally they made him erase Peter from it. But then he wanted to be there when Walternate found the cure for Peter in the first place because it was such a momentous moment for the future? Why was it momentous? Cause Walternate would take that cure and do something more with his life besides brood and plot? Or because that side's Peter was meant for more? And why was the Peter/Fauxlivia baby the "wrong" one then? If Walternate cured his son, there never would have been a "war between the universes" to begin with so no Peter+Olivia? I am just confused with where they were going with it. Hopefully they can iron it out a bit before the end of the season.


    I do think that with House gone, we will more than likely get at least a 13 episode season next year and have it be billed as "The Final Chapter". Really what does Fox have going for it at the moment? Idol, XFactor and Bones? House is gone, Glee is dying a slow suicidal death. The Bones spinoff seems to be DoA. Alcatraz may survive but its ratings continue to dwindle so its doubtful. The rest is "Animation Domination" and Gordon Ramsey. No matter what happens, its been proven that cult followed shows can be a boon for a network trying to launch a number of new shows. Hopefully we will see them keep Fringe, and possibly move it back to a better night. Hell, maybe they will finally get a brain and realize that no one wants 3 days of Idol every week and fix Thursdays.

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