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  1. #241
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    Good to know, though if it Astral Flows at 75%, Im worried it will do it every 25%.

    Ive been going off Ruken's LJ for input on how to hold/deal with pandy and eliminate the lamps quickly. The problems ive seen so far is invariante hate buildup on the lamps leads to slower kills.

    I was planning on having an alt alliance ready to go when the first one gets killed, but if this happens every 25%, it may prove a bit challenging.

    I would still like to comfirm that killing PW before all lamps are dead causes same form to repop, as other than the first vague claim, we havent seen any evidence. Also, was it comfirmed that the lamps TP at the same time that PW does?

  2. #242
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanss View Post
    @Neo

    ya that's kinda all the info I got out of it (it was short and sweet and a little choppy his English isn't 100%) they are thinking next time to have a backup alliance not engaged/no hate/logged off on pandy when the smn lamps pop and do the same strat , they said the backup alliance use m.kris (or kc if enough at the time) for the backup/non hate alliance, drks zerg it down after the 1st atral flow wipes the main alliance because they don't think they have enough kc's or vise versa have m.kris drks for the other forms and the kc drks for the astral flow form
    Yes I'm 100% positive that using Drks to Souleater zerg it down is going to be the way to kill it. Not that it was your strategy but seriously, think about AV, PW is essentially the new pet of SE if we don't beat the magic diviner super secret strategy they have thought up they'll just keep changing things.

    What people need to do is spam SE and tell them to give us the correct way to kill these mobs. The enigmatic BS that SE has fed us so far is not making anyone happy.

  3. #243
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    Quote Originally Posted by orson View Post
    What people need to do is spam SE and tell them to give us the correct way to kill these mobs. The enigmatic BS that SE has fed us so far is not making anyone happy.
    Damn why didnt anyone think of that before?! come on guys lets ask SE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleekmotorwurkz View Post
    Damn why didnt anyone think of that before?! come on guys lets ask SE!
    Or maybe we should all just quit.

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    i am more shocked that none of the dev team that plays has not killed it(or can they play the game?) someone go sleep with one the Dev members and get back to us.

  6. #246
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    That's cause the dev team players who play are the guys shouting random crap in shitegate on their PUP64/SAM4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleekmotorwurkz View Post
    Damn why didnt anyone think of that before?! come on guys lets ask SE!
    SE: The secret is to zoom in and slow down time. K THX BAI.

  8. #248
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    Should ask the LS from Remora that took it to Astral Flow level. A few members tried to contact them and they cock blocked us. Lol.

  9. #249
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    Quote Originally Posted by dejet View Post
    someone go sleep with one the Dev members and get back to us.
    Working on it.

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    And I stand by my original speculative statement that you need a SMN in the battle... Obviously restrict which avatar they use by summoning an avatar... just like how Ob is influenced by the PUP...

    A use for SMNs again!

  11. #251
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    HA! i wish. My smn gets no love typically with end game... I dont understand why i torture myself with meriting it, and getting the best gear...

  12. #252
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miraun View Post
    And I stand by my original speculative statement that you need a SMN in the battle... Obviously restrict which avatar they use by summoning an avatar... just like how Ob is influenced by the PUP...

    A use for SMNs again!
    iirc, old photos when we first learned of the flow behavior showed player avatars there in addition to pw's set. that's not to say they were in party, but you could try finding out from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spekkio View Post
    iirc, old photos when we first learned of the flow behavior showed player avatars there in addition to pw's set. that's not to say they were in party, but you could try finding out from them.
    I'm sure there are... but I'm pretty disillusioned like all SMNs. We need to be delusional to keep playing the job. False promises of new avatars... gear that's difficult to obtain and has proven to only increase potency by .5%... every other job in the game getting the same amount of auto-refresh as us...

    I'm going to ignore facts like, "There were SMNs in the last fight" and, "While SE stated 2 years ago we are getting new avatars, but has not yet implimented nor anymore hints of getting new avatars"... and pretend that I still have a purpose to exist in FFXI as a SMN.

    Hope is the only reason to keep playing SMN ; ;

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    Be cheerful miraun, it's not like any other job in tha game can give Stoneskinga, Phalanxga, Enspellga, and cast weak tier4 nukes!....

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    Smn needs a big overhaul to be useful in hmns. Increase aoe buff range, let the buffs hit entire alliance, and allowing a longer distance for assault BPs (or at least not wasting your timer/mp) to fix the distance problem. Shit like this is easy to do and helps alot without a huge change to pet jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno View Post
    Smn needs a big overhaul to be useful in hmns. Increase aoe buff range, let the buffs hit entire alliance, and allowing a longer distance for assault BPs (or at least not wasting your timer/mp) to fix the distance problem. Shit like this is easy to do and helps alot without a huge change to pet jobs.
    THIS THIS MOTHER FUCKING THIS.

    Also give us a light avatar worth a damn. Carby is fine for soloing, but doing light damage when it's needed? Yeah... you're better off with Fenrir.

  17. #257
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    here here. i've had smn 75 for years and the only use it ever sees is odin and kirin when we didn't zerg it.

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    Can anyone give me some more accurate data on the HP of each lamp/PW per phase (after the nerf). I only have pre-nerf data.

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    If you do ZNM often I find SMN super useful on Tyger, and Nosferatu, as well as a must have for Sarameya. These ZNM have high magic resistance and no melee resistance; though have bad AOE’s you want to stay away from.

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    I don't care about Summoner. I care about Pandemonium Warden.

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