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  1. #321
    As I beavered away...
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    What a shame. Maybe we'll see PW dead next time.

  2. #322
    Demosthenes11
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    uh, we got plenty of nukes on the last form lamps.

    I was blm (modest gear, though elf) and I got 0 resists the whole fight until final form. Whole alliance used blizga III and it did almost no damage. Thunder does full damage, however, so damage should be switched to thunder on last lamps. That alone would have gotten us to 75% to test a few things -.-;;

  3. #323
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    *Crazy theory*

    What if..since you started on Earthsday..and Thunder is weak to Earth..it carried over to the final form, and that's why they were weak to Thunder!

    /endtheory

    But seriously, sounds like the same thing as when EX attempted it, where next time they'll get to the final form with a lot more time left. Now we just need one of these LSs to pop it again.

  4. #324
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    What setup did ya have on PW?

  5. #325
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    Ally:

    1. BRD/BLM** PLD/NIN x2, RDM/WHM, WHM x2
    2. BRD/BLM*, WHM, RDM/WHM, RNG, SAM, BLU/THF
    3. BRD/BLM*, WHM, RDM/WHM, RNG, [DD], BLU/THF

    ** Ally leader
    * Leader

    During PW opening/ending [DD] = SAM
    After lamps [DD] = BLM

    DD replacements after K.O:

    - RNG->RNG, SAM->SAM
    - BLU-> BLU.
    Replace with RNG then WAR if none of same job available.

    Cerberus & Khimaira

    Replace RDM/WHM with RDM/DRK in PT 2 & 3

    Lamp Setup
    Ally:

    1. PLD/WHM, BLM/WHM x4, SCH/DRK
    2. BLM/WHM x5, PLD/WHM
    3. BLM/WHM x5, SCH/DRK

    Holder PT:

    1. RDM/NIN x2

    3 strong BLMs needed to be selected for [DD] slot in main.

  6. #326
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    Question, why SCH/DRK over 2-3 blu? They get access to Frypan, Temporal Shift, and Actinic burst , 3 blu could cycle between each one keeping all the mobs stunlocked pretty much. Not 100% sure on the range of the AoE stun though, however shouldn't matter considering the monsters bunch up at the beginning, and if stunlocked they won't move at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik View Post
    Question, why SCH/DRK over 2-3 blu? They get access to Frypan, Temporal Shift, and Actinic burst , 3 blu could cycle between each one keeping all the mobs stunlocked pretty much. Not 100% sure on the range of the AoE stun though, however shouldn't matter considering the monsters bunch up at the beginning, and if stunlocked they won't move at all.
    SCH/drk is AOE spell stun which has range and stuns all the time.
    Blue has to be close range, it most likely wont reach all targets, it DOES get resisted to all hell on HNMs, and Actinic burst doesn't stun >_>.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtype954 View Post
    SCH/drk is AOE spell stun which has range and stuns all the time.
    Blue has to be close range, it most likely wont reach all targets, it DOES get resisted to all hell on HNMs, and Actinic burst doesn't stun >_>.
    Yah I know actinic burst doesn't stun, but it'd help right after a -ga3, if it helps stop a few melee swings from the mobs it'd be nice.

    BLU would be as close as the blms would to the monsters (right in their face). The only thing I don't know is the resistance, then again I'd need to see the resistance levels of the lamps - most blu resist temp shift because they're wearing swords and not staff/magic acc gears.

    I have both sch and blu levelled I see good reason to bring both, but then again if the gears are resistant to stun and need the "Stun" spell, blu's shot to shit for PW lamps stun duties.

  9. #329
    Masamune
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    What about BLU's "Magnetic Cloud" Graviga effect ?

  10. #330
    Demosthenes11
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    gravity pretty useless really, its the ws that kills, and -ga that kills on last form

  11. #331
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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    i'll answer honestly i think we didn't had enough blus for that :D

  12. #332
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunslinger View Post
    I mpk'd us all with slime mold ^_____________^
    Gun is the epitome of Pro.

    No mas Slime mpk prz, unless it is Rata. All in all we had a fucking blast and definitely learned alot, 10/10 would do again etc..etc.. I do have to say though that when we got Drawn in from the very BACK of the tunnel was quite unexpected, impressive range. Oh and fuck his nukes.

    Awesome, I had a blast with all of you guys.

  13. #333
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    Thinking about Going after this in january...

    So yea my ls has been sitting on a 2/3 P.Warden pop and were planning to swarm a few tygers after the holiday in attempt to complete this set.

    Ive been doing alot of Reading on how to approach this mob and wanted to run by my plan of attack with the BG community In attempt to defeat this so called collossal. with the Help of Awesomeland's video and people who have posted here im gonna restate the facts and bring up to date for those who choose not to read the entire thread.

    (Based on what i know from reading)

    Pandamonium Warden
    A.??? maybe 75,000 Hit points (Varies on form)
    ~assisted by 8 gears with 5,000 Hit points each.
    (Troll form confirmed to have more HP.)
    ~Can be Stunned (Confirmed) (excluding some of his lamps I.E Bombs)
    ~Has 10 forms + His orginal self.
    ~Uses Astral Flow at 75% on very last form Repeatedly on Anyone on hate list.
    (Making a Wipe mandatory or some effort to log out a sufficient number of players able to continue the fight once he has wiped people)
    ~Eliminating gears only Does not put you on Hate list on P.Warden
    (Thus makes astral Flow wipe tank party and any others that have cured tanks.)
    ~lamps do not use TP moves in correlation with P.Warden.
    Will add more as it comes in.
    Gonna add my plan later as its 1:30 am now lol

  14. #334
    Demosthenes11
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    just glancing over that, the bomb lamps are not stunable, at least by the spell. Best part is you gotta use firaga III on them (which is less damage than the normal nuke on other lamps) so these are going to go down slower.

    Self-destruct is fun

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    Dont think the forms have 100k hp each anymore, more like half that. It's early, so I might be making shit up.

  16. #336
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    Definetly less than 100k lol, was probably 100k pre-patch I guess

  17. #337
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    This boss has to be the most fun since FFXII last hunt that took 3 weeks to kill.

    GO S/E! i can see we are getting closer to defeating this tho. someone people have gotten to astral flow i can definitaly see us noting his drops in jan/feb 2009

  18. #338
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    Fire crystals you mean.

  19. #339
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    After actually fighting it and thinking about it a little, I think they designed this mob very well EXCEPT for the AF cockblock
    But even with it, it just requires perfect execution of a strategy and well-geared players. I think it's a step in the right direction, the farming of pop items before it is just ridiculous

  20. #340
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    It looks like we wont be able to do our PW till mid January due to holidays, but Ill keep everyone informed. Im finishing up our strat and am really looking forward to the fight. Im kinda expecting PW to AF every 25%, so not sure exactly how much resources I want to devote to that theory.

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