Has anyone tried PW since the update?

[carste]

SA has never killed PW in any form while any lamps were still alive. I believe the only group that can confirm on 'repop' is the first known group to ever attempt PW.

Thanks.

Since that's the only group to ever kill PW with lamps up and all requests for a screenshot of the repopped chariot result in nothing, I'll try to convince my shell to kill PW while ignoring the lamps.

Any recommendations on other theories we should test out if PW does indeed repop as the same form?

It may be another couple weeks before we can pop ours while we secure some numbers and the person with the PW pop is back from his vacation...

[Suiram]

I'm with you that there's never been anything conclusive posted showing that he'll repop at the same form holding the lamps. However, it seems like it's best to try if you think killing all lamps + PW for 12 or however many forms he has now will take you longer than 2 hours. If you feel that you're capable of killing them anyway but convince your LS to skip lamps and he does repeat a form, then you're going to have a lot of pissed-off people.

[Neosutra]

I'm with you that there's never been anything conclusive posted showing that he'll repop at the same form holding the lamps. However, it seems like it's best to try if you think killing all lamps + PW for 12 or however many forms he has now will take you longer than 2 hours. If you feel that you're capable of killing them anyway but convince your LS to skip lamps and he does repeat a form, then you're going to have a lot of pissed-off people.

Taking a chance at saving a shit load of time with the possibility of having to redo one form isn't really something any member should get upset about.

[Xajii]

Being fought on Odin by a team of two bigish HNM lses, on 10th (last?) form with short time remaining, maybe 10-15min so I hear.

News to come i'm guessing.

Edit: Depopped, sucks.

[vagus]

Being fought on Odin by a team of two bigish HNM lses, on 10th (last?) form with short time remaining, maybe 10-15min so I hear.

News to come i'm guessing.

Edit: Depopped, sucks.

Awsomeland at it again, teamup of BBQGold & LimitBreak. It depopped sadly. Whm/Bst & Bst/whm held Khimera and killed. Lol. Bombs from Cerb and instant cast goat boy lamps suck balls.

Had about 50 people there, lots of blms in seperate alliance, PW main tank alliance and a rdm/whm, bst/whm & whm/bst to deal with slimes, leeches & elementals.

[donnie]

the fight was great overall , but to kill 80 lamps + 10 bosses withen 2hr limit is very intense. we wiped on bombs and then again on fulmination , where afterwards the final form spawned and about 70% of the alliance weakned. afterwards , while we getting ready he just despawned.

basically you need to kill each form with its lamps within 10min to leave 30min for the final form. I think we will defenatly going to kill him on next attempt , we have tweaked some parts of the plan and it should work next time.

[yayaok]

damn, sounds good, so its definately possible now? you guys werent able to get a win purely cause of the time limit, yea? good luck next time

[Kaylia]

damn, sounds good, so its definately possible now? you guys werent able to get a win purely cause of the time limit, yea? good luck next time

With 50 peoples... I hope it's not what SE intended, because I can't imagine many people killing it if it's the case. Good to know it doesn't suck as bad as AV tho.

[Spira]

i still think more testing should be done with the number of lamps thing before death. I'm not saying that my number puzzle theory i was spouting would be it.. but currently everyone is only tackling it from 1 angle.. which is still too steep for an average group to handle..

[Kikaru]

Emergency update PW's forms gain magic resistance and arrow shield tp move just to spite us way things have been lately.

[willriker]

I would say its definately possible. But you need the people to do it. I dont know of any LS that has this many people. Certainly no LS on Odin is large enough to do on thier own at this point. So, epic style LS team ups would be used as we did. Kind of sucks for LS's of ill repute. Oh well.

We did mess up a few times. Some forms did not go smoothly at all. And there was some weird thing that would happen with lamps... For some reason a few would return to PW dispite being in AOE from two pullers. We had two pullers AOE the lamps and pull aside. I highly doubt that we didnt get all the adds in some aoe as i would personaly cast two aoe's per pull just to be sure.

Once thats figured out, tanks in main alliance would be safer. And, fight should go much smoother.

Id advise pushing through the first four forms asap, as later forms seem to be tougher to push down. Making any attempt to make up time as the fight goes on incredibly challenging.

Over all, i came away with the impression that the true difficulty of this fight is the time limit now. Not, the first 10 forms themselves. That being said, we really didnt have a chance to kill the first set of lamps on the final form. We were still recovering from Khimera's Fulmination... and that set us back a bunch on time.

not bad for first attempt, not bad at all

[Furionstormrage]

Not bad indeed, best of luck on future attempts and thank you for posting the info.

[Lockecole7]

I would say its definately possible. But you need the people to do it. I dont know of any LS that has this many people. Certainly no LS on Odin is large enough to do on thier own at this point. So, epic style LS team ups would be used as we did. Kind of sucks for LS's of ill repute. Oh well.

How many times have we heard this from the community? It'll be done with less people, it'll be done more efficiently than ever thought possible. Eventually it'll be a joke...for now enjoy it while it's actually one of the few challenges in the game left.

[Waef]

The only reason it's a 'challenge' is because SE put an unrealistic time-limit in so they don't have to deal with more bad media for a fight taking too long.

[donnie]

to be honest, 50 people is over doing it. we started with 39 , but I would say 36-38 would be the ideal set up. and 25-28 the minimum. could be done with those numbers since even once we reached 50 people there were only 2 alliances and a Party of 3 ppl for normal adds.

so in a sense , you can have only 1 tank party and 1 melee Party , then 3 blm parties and you will be ready.

[Jaxzer]

Awsomeland attempt courtesy of Jokkill, BBQGold: http://files.filefront.com/pandemoni.../fileinfo.html
Much better quality downloaded.

[Ashira]

I thought this was going to be today (Saturday).... when I approached Yuchi about TK helping I told her Sunday (JP time) and she said we couldn't because of pre-scheduled Dynamis etc...

GDI, if I'd know it was FRIDAY we maybe would have done this for event. -.-

[Jaxzer]

Donnie changed it mid-week, I couldn't make it either -.-

[dys0r]

Ok, 2nd attempt for us (Apathy).

We got all the way to PW with about 30 mins left. Those lamps die fast but they're no joke. Once we killed all 8, we got PW to 76% before we had everyone run to different tunnels and stay hidden there till after Astral Flow. But guess what happened? It summoned all the avatars, and Astral Flowed every single one of us. It killed all the melee in the East tunnel. And then it Astral Flowed all the BLMs in the other tunnel.

It seems it goes after anyone with any kind of hate and will keep doing that till every single one of your LS is dead. We took about 4-5 mins to get it down to 75%.

This shit is just too rough. It will keep Astral Flowing, too, lol.

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[Not Kuno]

Why did you delete that? Was fairly informative and also fairly terrible mob design.