The Gimp/Confused/WTF Player Thread VI: Enmity = TH9000

[S N K]

SNK, what is your Goenitz loving ass doing latelty D:, you mean you acttualy stoped playing?

lol Sup Lede. Not too much these days. Just working overnight a lot and sleeping in during the daytime. I was wondering how things were with you once you jumped back to your own server. If you get bored you should stop by the FL website again and say hi.

P.S. You had like 12 or so Limbus Coins you forgot to get before you left. lawl.

[Shin Volcano]

I told them to keep it, and No i went back to the same mess i left (eventually) they didn't change one bit, i at LEAST got my gaiters i rightfully earned (again) tho, lol was promised crap would change and it did! but slowly went back to similar mess, had to call it quits on the LS, To much egos, shit talking, bad leadership, drama,and a Untrustable leader, do your self a favor, if you ever switch servers, dont go to unicorn lol. but other wise, i'm relaxing right now. i'll acttualy send you a request again when i can, but you aren't playing atm, so i'm not sure what good it will do right now ;l uhh..if you have any questions tho, should probably PM them, as we getting off topic now.

[Isiolia]

"Background Resolution" is something that seems common in PS2 ports. This is the resolution the graphics engine will render the 3D objects in memory before drawing them on your screen in the resolution you've chosen.

In addition that person is also right that the FFXI engine will only render a backgroud resolution up to 2048x2048. And they are also correct on the regedit locations for the FFXI background resolution.

If I remember right, or at least, have been told correctly when discussing this elsewhere...basically, FFXI renders the 3D scene to a texture, postprocessing is done, and then this is what's shown on-screen. That's why Antialiasing doesn't work, for one.

2048x2048 as a max size depends on the video card, as it's tied to max texture size. Cards that can handle larger than that, can render FFXI higher. At least, this is what I've been told.

[S N K]

I told them to keep it, and No i went back to the same mess i left (eventually) they didn't change one bit, i at LEAST got my gaiters i rightfully earned (again) tho, lol was promised crap would change and it did! but slowly went back to similar mess, had to call it quits on the LS, To much egos, shit talking, bad leadership, drama,and a Untrustable leader, do your self a favor, if you ever switch servers, dont go to unicorn lol. but other wise, i'm relaxing right now. i'll acttualy send you a request again when i can, but you aren't playing atm, so i'm not sure what good it will do right now ;l uhh..if you have any questions tho, should probably PM them, as we getting off topic now.

Well I'm happy to hear you finally got your long awaited Gaiters. Send me a PM sometime either here or at FL since I think you still have full forum access. I'll be back either at the end of this month or sometime after the 1st of next month.

Freelot is going to do their 2nd Odin so I'm stoked about finally getting a crack at that seeing as I missed the 1st one. Anyways enough going OT, I'll talk to you in private instead of messing up a somewhat entertaining thread.

[Cream Soda]

PC died on me so I hadn't been online with it for almost a month now. I finally was able to locate the parts I needed to fix whatever broke on it. I originally was going to send it to the company that made this model but they wanted to charge me $200.00 + S&H to even look at it.

Searched Ebay and found the piece I needed for $81.00USD brand new. I'll be back in action sometime next month. I've been busy working a ton as well so I wouldn't have been able to log on anyways.

Just picked up a cursed togi-1, tel ur shell to gimme a discount on the abj

[DAKPluto]

If I remember right, or at least, have been told correctly when discussing this elsewhere...basically, FFXI renders the 3D scene to a texture, postprocessing is done, and then this is what's shown on-screen. That's why Antialiasing doesn't work, for one.

2048x2048 as a max size depends on the video card, as it's tied to max texture size. Cards that can handle larger than that, can render FFXI higher. At least, this is what I've been told.

If I recall correctly, you can insert numbers higher than the 2048, but regardless of the card, it isn't actually processing higher than 2048. So even though the registry would show something like 4096x4096, you are still only getting 2048x2048. I could be wrong though. Been a while since I played with them. And god only knows if Cliff/Star/Wiccann/Aikar tossed in something to expand beyond the 2048 also.

[Isiolia]

If I recall correctly, you can insert numbers higher than the 2048, but regardless of the card, it isn't actually processing higher than 2048. So even though the registry would show something like 4096x4096, you are still only getting 2048x2048. I could be wrong though. Been a while since I played with them. And god only knows if Cliff/Star/Wiccann/Aikar tossed in something to expand beyond the 2048 also.

That was my understanding of it as well, however, I have been told that newer cards that support larger textures do allow for higher rendering sizes. Similarly though, I haven't messed with it anyway, so I couldn't say for sure.

[S N K]

Just picked up a cursed togi-1, tel ur shell to gimme a discount on the abj

It doesn't matter how much Whitebox you obtain, You will never be as awesome as Fujimaru's relic monk who fulltimed Temple Gloves+1!!

[Frenzy]

I found an entirely gimp LS.How is this gimp? Let me turn around for you.

Why in hell is an entire alliance EXPing on mobs like these instead of, ya know, saving it for the BLMs they hate so much? This also made me cry:

/sigh

You know, their's a ZNM in that area. Might have gone after that.

[Cream Soda]

It doesn't matter how much Whitebox you obtain, You will never be as awesome as Fujimaru's relic monk who fulltimed Temple Gloves+1!!

Couldn't care less about white box tbh. Stats > box
and lol at fuji

[Kriz]

I'm a bit late to the topic, but I was under the impression that if you did 2048x2048, it'd scale down and give you a fake AA effect, because FFXI doesn't listen to like ATI/Nvidia's AA settings. Which is a valid reason to use it, I'd imagine.

Also, Zero, you were a huge dick to them. They said they were at 2048x2048, and you went batshit crazy on them. Okay, sure, their monitor and card probably can't even go over 1900x, but you made it seem like they raped your mother. I'd logout too.

Oh, and next time you wanna show a conversation, change the view to ls chat only. Saves a lot of space.

[Zero Serenity]

They didn't though. They just slaughered all the flans when I was trying to EXP.

[DAKPluto]

If I recall, isn't the best strategy to kite the Troll Grenadiers that it spawns in that area...hence the reason to kill the puddings that would aggro?

[Velecic]

If I recall, isn't the best strategy to kite the Troll Grenadiers that it spawns in that area...hence the reason to kill the puddings that would aggro?

No, and no the ZNM Mob (assuming you are speaking of Khromasoul (the tier 3 Sarameya Path ZNM)) is much further west, down in the troll area, it's fought well away from the Pudding camp, and adds are generally zoned by someone outside alliance not kited. I don't see any reason for an alliance to hang out there unless they were going to use that Halvung zone (which is entirely possible) to do something and were waiting on their last member(s) and just killed some puddings to pass the time?

[DAKPluto]

Eh, wasn't sure. I haven't jumped on the whole ZNM thing. I despise pitcure taking pokemon crap.

[Isiolia]

I'm a bit late to the topic, but I was under the impression that if you did 2048x2048, it'd scale down and give you a fake AA effect, because FFXI doesn't listen to like ATI/Nvidia's AA settings. Which is a valid reason to use it, I'd imagine.

Not exactly. What people tend to do is set the background resolution to twice the foreground resolution so that it scales it down like you said. It effectively gives 2xAA. Most people running that will have at least one dimension set past 2048.

The reason that it needs to be done this way isn't because of FFXI deliberately ignoring AA settings, but because the 3D image is being rendered in a different buffer than the AA is applied to. FFXI is not the only game to do this, Halo PC does it, Silent Hill II for PC does it too.
Though for different reasons, AA is not supported on most hardware with the Unreal 3 Engine either. So it's not just something that older console ports can't do.

[Kriz]

Aha, thank you kindly. I've got to set that up on my own machine!

[Saxon]

I despise pitcure taking pokemon crap.

Thank God I'm not the only one. ; ;

Also: That LS isn't gimp, idk what they were doing there, probably just dicking around till everyone gathered for a ZNM or something, but you can't place the gimp tag on a LS because of that one PLD you SSed.

[Mathematics]

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Vbelt + sniper+1

[BadKarma]

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Vbelt + sniper+1

A) Town Gear
B) Hes Not gimp at all
C) Gtfo for posting that