Of Kclubs and Souleater

[wintersquall]

At any rate I'm going to get better at the game so I don't do things like trade Dynamis glasses to people not in my shell.

blm hat go go go


so let me get this shit straight: we made a NEW thread, to discuss the RETARDATION going on in the other thread, and so the RETARDATION spreads...

i hope some of you people bitching about this don't procreate, because your kids will have fucking webbed feet and mine will only have 5 toes... and THAT'S NOT FAIR IN THE SWIMMING POOL QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

[FailureMidgard]

Why is everyone bringing up AV? Do you think it is "balanced" or "right" that 1 job with 1 specific weapon can do 5-6x the damage of anyone else no matter what? It's nowhere near balanced. It's rather silly that a zerg of 4 DRKs can beat out over a full alliance on DL.

I could care less about AV, I could actually care less if they actually change KC DRKs or not, but if you think KC DRKs are "balanced", well, I don't think you are being very logical. If I were a game developer for FFXI, I would have changed it long ago. If I were to develop a game in the future, there is no way I would put in a specific job+weapon combo that suddenly does -that- much damage.

As far as a fix for KC, I'd say just limit the bonus damage to some % of the base damage of the swing. 200% may be reasonable to not hurt anything with a real weapon? If your base hit is 100, souleater can do +200 damage. If your base hit is 10 with a KC, souleater adds an additional 20.

In any case, AV not dying for so long and KCDRK zerg are entirely separate issues, and shouldn't be mashed together.

[Pendulum]

request a ban for trolling

Seconded.

[TribalCelestial]

if you think that button mashing is the key to beating AV then SE was right "you're doing it wrong".

I'd like to see 1 shell beat it legitimately, at least just once. To date this has never happened without use of some exploit or glitch and you can add zerg to that list. I don't care if it's your shell, my shell or an ls on another server that does. Zerging just cheapens the whole thing to the point it's just another pop mob.

quit.

[Correction]

Yeah because nothing should ever be done to improve the time spent/reward ratio in FFXI...

Go kite Kirin some more.

[Crisco]

I am extremely glad that AV was defeated, I don't care about the method. It feels like a huge stick of rape was just shoved up SE's ass for killing it in a nontraditional sense.

They should have given us more clues by now, and this is the only way we know to kill it now.


NOW, there is a problem. No way in hell do many linkshells have the manpower / kraken club team to pull this off, so we still need to find the legit way of killing him, otherwise the 1 great linkshell of each server monopolizes AV.

^

And why only start bitching now that AV has been defeated? If you were so inclined to do away with KC, then why isn't this thread years old? Sure this method is do-able, but is it realistic for 99% of the FFXI community...didn't think so. SE should not, and probably will not, nerf KC because one LS accumulated enough to take down AV. What they need to do is give us some serious hints as to AVs weakness. Knowing the weakness won't make AV any easier...just possible.

[Day]

Omg someone used an in game item and an in game ability or two to their advantage and beat a hard mob someone call the exploit police.

[Lordender]

wah wah wah wah wah KC is overpowered wah wah wah wah. What did you guys think would happen with a nerfed AV?

[Pendulum]

Omg someone used an in game item and an in game ability or two to their advantage and beat a hard mob someone call the exploit police.

It's not hard now, it's been put on easy mode!

[JackDaniels]

All this complaining about KC's is retarded, it's one of the hardest items in the game to obtain for good reason. Let's not pretend this thread doesn't stem out of jealousy, if you need krakens to kill AV so badly then you have a number of options:

1. Borrow some KC DRKs from another LS, kill AV, sell the loot, and use the funds to get your own damn clubs and to pay off the helpers. A sash + mars is easily 4 KCs for your LS, if not more. Suck your pride up and ask for some help, one kill pays for itself.

2. Suck it up and sell some prized HNM drops or dynamis currency to fund your LS some kraken's, they will pay for themselves easily over time when you can kill stuff like AV, DL, KV, Bahamut 2, etc with ease.

3. Not everyone needs a KC, if you look at the parses you can see that the non-KC DRK's still do pretty good dmg, a mercurial kris is a fraction of the cost, and relatively easy to obtain.

[JigglyJam]

Omg someone used an in game item and an in game ability or two to their advantage and beat a hard mob someone call the exploit police.

WEEOOOO WEEEOOOO WEEEEEEOOOOOOOO

[Callisto]

Why is everyone bringing up AV? Do you think it is "balanced" or "right" that 1 job with 1 specific weapon can do 5-6x the damage of anyone else no matter what? It's nowhere near balanced. It's rather silly that a zerg of 4 DRKs can beat out over a full alliance on DL.

While I agree here, the main issue is that everyone and their mother weren't complaining til AV was killed. Some fights are meant to just be ganked, this seems to be one. If they weren't meant that way you'd be able to prolong the fight without getting shitcocked upside the head. So DRK can kick the shit out of things like this, they're a gank specialist. There's a ton of endgame stuff a K.Club DRK can't do that other jobs can. Tell me honestly where else DRK would fit into these fights over a SAM or RNG if they couldn't do this. They leveled a job, geared it well, and got an extremely rare item. Let them be rewarded by beating some major ass every 2 hours.

[Correction]

Need a photoshopped cop car in the same vein as the WAAAAAAAAMBULANCE.

[Juront]

This thread is filling up faster than Builttolast's vagina filled with sand.

[Liseth]

You know it's posts/complaints/crying that nerfed BLMs, RNG, and probably now DRKs. I don't know what people want, do they actually want every goddamn job in the game to be the same or capable of being used in similar situations for similar things? Yeah, PUP can't participate in much of anything endgame wise, but why complain over something like Souleater and KC? I personally like seeing 8,798,657 DRKs go at something like AV with their blue bubbles! Zerged fights are just more efficient overall when slower, much more tedious strategies are not. All jobs weren't created equal and some jobs are more toyish than others, DRK just happens to be capable pushing past that one tier or level needed to be able to overwhelm certain odds most jobs cannot. Souleater defines DRK and taking that away from them would make them pretty lol for endgame. Souleater zergs are just as much as a niche for DRK as Manaburning is for BLMs.

[Almalexia]

Kraken isn't the problem, DRK isn't the problem.

AV is the problem. Kraken+DRK is the solution.

[bebeci]

KC DRK doesn't take 1 minute.
You still need to have the proper gear, get buffs, organize proper parties etc.

But yes, the fight is slightly faster with a better chance of winning. It does not guarantee a victory.

[Jkun]

This thread needs that old signature of Captain Planet with the "I HAS A KRAKEN!" quote, or something, lol.

[TribalCelestial]

Kraken isn't the problem, DRK isn't the problem.

AV is the problem. Kraken+DRK is the solution.

Don't you worry about blank, let me worry about blank.

[Jkun]

Kraken isn't the problem, DRK isn't the problem.

AV is the problem. Kraken+DRK is the solution.

Wow I love you.