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  1. #201
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    I CAN'T I CAN'T I CAN'T

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    ROFL @ Salvage is racist.

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    IMO if there's any job to get nerfed in any of this, its BRD. Cuz as everybody knows, no zerg can happen without brds present, period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjafox View Post
    IMO if there's any job to get nerfed in any of this, its BRD. Cuz as everybody knows, no zerg can happen without brds present, period.
    lol

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    Granted so far we have only seen krakenDRKs or DRKs with M.kris and Ridills down AV... better than the shitfest/deathwipes we have had over the past 2+years

  5. #205
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlah View Post
    Or it may actually encourage endgame LS to develop a strategy based on the video provided by SE?

    Get a tank party that consists of 4 PLD+RDM/NIN, a bunch of BLM and try again before we completely rule out the possibility of defeating AV the normal way. AV has 100% spawn rate now, all it takes are a few well thought strategies and 2-3 endgame LS can team up to hold AV and take turn to test the them out.
    You've got to be kidding me.

    sarcasm

    Throwing DRKs at it? Yeah that's so stupid, let's throw a million tanks and a million BLM, that's the way it should be done.

    /sarcasm

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    May be you need help with simple logic.

    Not every single LS has enough number of DRK to do zerg fight. Not everyone wants to play DRK. However, if SE leave things as they are ppl are going to level DRK.

    Multiple tanks and BLM are used in SE video, it doesnt' mean it's the ONLY way to defeat AV. However it's still one of the safest setup to hold AV and give the players sufficient time to test their strategies. Once ppl figure the secret out (i.e. to prevent chainspell meteor etc) it shold be possible to add more melee or reduce the number of tank jobs.

    Edit: there is a simple solution to prevent DRK zerg without nerfing BW/SE. All SE need to do is to make AV use invincible at least once prior to 30% hp, just like our Ouryu friend

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    At this point, I just assume the 'real' way of defeating AV is a pain in the ass, so to most, the zerg method would still be prefered.

    We have an interesting situation now. Player resourcefullness and success embarrasing SEs policy of being stuborn. We don't need your 'secret' anymore. There are only three real possibilities at this point now:

    - SE just leaves it alone, and the chances people find the 'real' kill method is relatively low.
    - SE nerfs either DRK, Souleater, Bloodweapon, or Kraken Club because yer doin it wrong.
    - SE, crying in despair and just wanting to be loved, finally tells people how to do it correctly. Some people try, fewer have success, and others still zerg away.

    At this point, I'm just curious what happens. I'm leaning towards SE just being lazy, and not touching anything, since I doubt they want another player backlash. However, I have to say, all the complaining is getting so annoying. I'll take retarded AV kill theories compared to QQing all over DRKs, KC, and AV anyday. Grow up people, this is a real wo/mans game! :-þ

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackDaniels View Post
    This is already what BW does... man, BG looks more like Alla everyday -_-;
    HEY, I've never even fucking unlocked DRK before. How would I know Souleater increases damage bye at least 170+. Sure I've partied with a DRK and seen them zerg with it, but I've never known for sure. I also knew after I posted that I should have read up on it.

    Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohaigaiz View Post
    HEY, I've never even fucking unlocked DRK before. How would I know Souleater increases damage bye at least 170+. Sure I've partied with a DRK and seen them zerg with it, but I've never known for sure. I also knew after I posted that I should have read up on it.

    Oh well.
    When you post in the advanced forum, it's an assumption you know how basic game mechanics work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    When you post in the advanced forum, it's an assumption you know how basic game mechanics work.
    What about advanced game mechanics? Raise the bar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph View Post
    What about advanced game mechanics? Raise the bar!
    pDIF=cDIK+fU-eatD/(coCK^2)+fSTR

    That's advanced!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    pDIF=cDIK+fU-eatD/(coCK^2)+fSTR

    That's advanced!
    My mind has been blown. I can honestly admit I have never tried testing that function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    When you post in the advanced forum, it's an assumption you know how basic game mechanics work.
    I do, just not for one job, DRK. Also, assumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    pDIF=cDIK+fU-eatD/(coCK^2)+fSTR

    That's advanced!
    ^ qft

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    The maintenance needs to start already so all this retardation can stop... who made this damn thread anyways? GOD

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    *Update Notice*

    -The issue where the Notorious Monster Pandemonium Wardan have too little HP/Defense and always yield full drop has been fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejet View Post
    sry for not answering you guys back, was out.

    anyways its not that i dislike drks. i am just looking at what has happened in the past, based off what se has done to me shows that we will see a nerf i do not see them letting drks rain king for much longer.

    also fyi you did need a hagun to pull the 2k+ dmgs off. it was 2mil, now its 30mil vs 2mil i guess, still a lot of gil but i guess not the same as 30mil.

    edit: ill be in class all day QQ, 9am-7:05pm with 2hrs off only...
    I'm sick of your attitude on Valefor honestly... and you have class so you must be attending University or something equivalent. Is it that hard to capitalize your I's and not butcher the English language like this? Jesus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy View Post
    When you post in the advanced forum, it's an assumption you know how basic game mechanics work.
    Considering he said the word "Bye" for "By" is laughable and should help you in judge of character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlah View Post
    I know ppl are going to call me a troll but there must be a legit way to kill AV, albeit a very long one. Those characters in SE AV video are just as fragile as normal players, somehow they manage to survive 10hr+ fight without triggering chainspell meteor. And we still haven't figured out the secret behind spamming 2hr.

    SE didn't change AV HP and behaviour to make DRK zerg possible. They made it 100% spawn rate so that players will have more opportunity to test their strategy on AV. And lower HP means shorter fight and less chance of full wipe due to AV's 2hr.
    After you go and read the 10k+ posts about AV tests and then go test yourself for hour upon hour you can come back and say this if you dare. And the video was not a 10+ hour fight, it was about an hour and a half where they used developer cheats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamanosukeShiva View Post
    *Update Notice*

    -The issue where the Notorious Monster Pandemonium Wardan have too little HP/Defense and always yield full drop has been fixed.

    -The issue where the Notorious Monster Absolute Virtue have too little HP/Defense and always yield full drop has been fixed.

    -We incorrectly adjusted the drop rate of Dynamis relic, this issue has been corrected
    fixed for accuracy

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