All Worlds Maintenance (Sep. 16)

[Belgaer]

so I assume to be "fair" we'll be getting our sea camps back, yes?

No.

[tommygunnz]

Then:
WAAAAAH WE CANT KILL AV AND ITS BEEN 4 YEARS WHY CANT WE KILL IT PLEASE FIX IT

Now:
WAAAAAH OTHERS CAN KILL AV BUT I CANT PLEASE FIX IT SO NO ONE CAN AGAIN

Holy shit, you people begging for it to be buffed/un-nerfed need to shut the fuck up, seriously. MY LS right now isn't in a state to kill it atm either, we lack the zerg DRKs, but god damn, after this long, it's nice to see AV dying finally, who cares how it's done. AV popping is 100%. The actual strategy WILL be found out for it, it's just a matter of time, since there are alot more opportunites to mess around with it now.

Nerf-huggers:
If Dynamis Lord had an alternate strategy, that involves taking more time, but you can lock oblivion smash, dynamic implosion, and Y&Y summoning, would you do it? Or would you keep doing it the old fashioned way, CS stunning it and zerging? I, myself, prefer doing the zerg version of Bahamut V2 instead of the manaburn one, because in my opinion it leaves a lot less room for error, as long as your rdm/drk knows what he/she is doing.

If you can kill it, who gives a shit HOW you do it, just kill it.

That's because 99% of people that post here are fucking crybabies who think they are "Endgame"

[LD]

That's because 99% of people that post here are fucking crybabies who think they are "Endgame"

Yes, we're a gigantic pack of posers.




That's an excellent avatar you have.

[Zosi]

That's because 99% of people that post here are fucking crybabies who think they are "Endgame"

This post is hilarious, and not for the reason the poster intended. Do tell, what makes an LS "Endgame"?

[Valkrish]

here we goo againnnnn

[dejet]

Don't forget... not only did we (we = not including mages) get a ton of boosts, we also got the nuking nerf that kicks in when too many spells land in a short period of time, plus SE started designing a number of mob features to prevent Manaburning as well (such as rapid sleep/stun resistance buildups). Many players don't even remember the Manaburn nerfs until reminded of it -- that's how acquiescent BLMs have been compared to the melee community.

Remember when SE removed the elemental camp in sea, because BLMs were getting huge XP chains and all the melees complained? Fast forward, and now we've got buffed melees and squishy ToAU mobs capable of being burned just as fast -- so I assume to be "fair" we'll be getting our sea camps back, yes?

i know this was not meant for what im saying but your post makes me think, BW = drain(sorta)= magic. if se was to nerf it, id be willing to say that the nerf will be BW will get hit with the magic nerf, aka if you use it a lot its dmg drops a LOT.

[Kenji]

Not sure if it's happening on other servers, but there is a hilarious amount of Kclubs for sale for 30 mil, in rolanberry. I'm predicting much lulz on tuesday.

[dejet]

SE:"with the upcoming update the use of BW and SE will only work with 2 hand weapons"
"also please note that a gob has been added that sells some rare items for the game(if you are far into the WoTG storyline)

*items include but are not limited to
1) kraken clubs
2)B mask
3)rid

the price of each item is 500,000.


but really i wish i had a K club for my whm ; ; the new WS seems pimp to use with that.

[dys0r]

Not sure if it's happening on other servers, but there is a hilarious amount of Kclubs for sale for 30 mil, in rolanberry. I'm predicting much lulz on tuesday.

Just yours.

I highly fucking doubt they'll nerf one of the rarest items in the game.

[BRP]

Let's pretend this isn't just wild paranoia. Let's say they want to resolve this Kraken Club business. They certainly have their reasons why, and it won't just be because of AV alone. I could see Kraken Club+DRK(+Feint) causing them a hard time designing a monster like AV or PW without it being impossible or very easy for those who have it.

No matter how much you can justify its nerf, people are going to bitch a lot about it.

Unlike something like Chainspell+Stun or Utsusemi, this combo doesn't have an easy fix like "give monsters stun resistance" or "make AoEs more common." You would have to go straight to the source because it is just pure damage like anything else. I don't see doing anything to Kraken Club being worthwhile, they are probably going to put a hardcap(based on HP I bet) on how much damage you could do with SE before it runs out. Alternatively, they could make SE and BW not stack.

Again, paranoia.

[Zosi]

Unlike something like Chainspell+Stun or Utsusemi, this combo doesn't have an easy fix like "give monsters stun resistance" or "make AoEs more common." You would have to go straight to the source because it is just pure damage like anything else. I don't see doing anything to Kraken Club being worthwhile, they are probably going to put a hardcap(based on HP I bet) on how much damage you could do with SE before it runs out. Alternatively, they could make SE and BW not stack.

An easier solution would be to split Souleater damage between the total number of swings in a single attack round, with an exception for WSs if you're feeling generous.

[Ahlah]

If you look at FFXI history, SE always introduce new adjustment when certain jobs dominate the gameplay over a long period of time.

RNG used to be the best DD job, SE nerfed it. MNK/NIN/WAR became the 2nd generation of top melee job, SE upgraded 2h weapons. NIN tank used to dominate both endgame and xp tanking. It's no longer the case now.

SE want to keep players busy in this game. Adjusting old jobs is the best way to recycle game content. When ppl start abusing DRK Zerg, SE is going to change it before every endgame LS turn into DRK army.

[Kipling]

Is this the same Draken from Midgardsormr?

Lol, no. Draken from midgard sold his account a long time ago. Totally different person.

[Chezo]

Hopefully it's to fix all the salvage issues and such............... don't take our AV away;;

I'm kinda confused, could AV not be DRK KC zerged before update, or did people just try zerging it after update, or did someone kill it by locking it or something that I missed?

[Almalexia]

Salvage issues?

[Zosi]

I'm kinda confused, could AV not be DRK KC zerged before update, or did people just try zerging it after update, or did someone kill it by locking it or something that I missed?

It was impractical to zerg AV before because he had substantially more HP. The current strategy is very time-limited, if AV lives for more than about 20-30 seconds, he WILL kill anyone in range, and prior to this update, he was guaranteed to live long enough during a zerg attempt to do so.

[Aux]

Aegis fix?

I'm 99.9% sure of this, make use of your aegis while you can.

[Chezo]

It was impractical to zerg AV before because he had substantially more HP. The current strategy is very time-limited, if AV lives for more than about 20-30 seconds, he WILL kill anyone in range, and prior to this update, he was guaranteed to live long enough during a zerg attempt to do so.

oh...thx for reply!

[Darkyrm]

Just yours.

I highly fucking doubt they'll nerf one of the rarest items in the game.

Yeah i could see them "adjusting" SE/BW use in the AV fight but nerfing Kraken DRKs altogether seems too much even for SE.

[Howard Roark]

we were joking around on vent after getting 6-7 35s our first LS-run salvage, that SE would apologize to us that we had accidentally played the JP version of FFXI

that and certain prime XP camps netting us a steady 13-17k in unlikely areas (level sync 'exploits') we figured they might say something along the lines of the following:

"Recent reports indicate that the playerbase has begun enjoying playing FFXI; we apologize for conveniencing you, normal play will resume after 2 hour Emergency Maintenance"