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[FailureMidgard]

I was talking about Neo's group since I assume everyone with Relic carries a full geared group.

Based on the time he gave, it seems like his DDs do less dmg than ours...

[Neosutra]

I only had 2 DDs with me, the other one was blm due to lack of options.

[FailureMidgard]

I only had 2 DDs with me, the other one was blm due to lack of options.

Ok, well, the quote you made says 3. And does your blm do 0 damage?

[Neosutra]

Ok, well, the quote you made says 3. And does your blm do 0 damage?

Does a hell of alot less than a well geared melee.

Also, you kill in less than 7 minutes?

[FailureMidgard]

Does a hell of alot less than a well geared melee.

Also, you kill in less than 7 minutes?

Im able to hold NM + 1-2 on me at any given time. 3 DDs clear the pets out asap when they come the first time then start working on NM. 2 DDs break off and clear adds as they come back each time, while 1 DD keeps DoT on the NM. Kills NM in about 7-8 minutes.

Do you take everything offensively? All I was doing was responding to what was said in the thread, not trying to have an epeen contest or something here, but I do take a little offense to people thinking because you have a relic, your entire group is godly and better than anyone else's.

In any case, I think a BLM does enough dmg to shave off 1-2 min, and just a minute ago you yourself said one of your DD wasn't that impressive. Finally, the biggest wall is enmity imo, not dps, so having a 3rd person is pretty huge for that. And I'm sure you'll reply with your pld being amazing/etc, but any DD worth their salt can hit enmity cap significantly faster than the quoted times on this BC.

[Neosutra]

Do you take everything offensively? All I was doing was responding to what was said in the thread, not trying to have an epeen contest or something here, but I do take a little offense to people thinking because you have a relic, your entire group is godly and better than anyone else's.

In any case, I think a BLM does enough dmg to shave off 1-2 min, and just a minute ago you yourself said one of your DD wasn't that impressive. Finally, the biggest wall is enmity imo, not dps, so having a 3rd person is pretty huge for that. And I'm sure you'll reply with your pld being amazing/etc, but any DD worth their salt can hit enmity cap significantly faster than the quoted times on this BC.

Nothing I said was offensive. I said 3 dds is better, and we take a blm due to job availability. I also said in the other thread our melees were taking hate towards end, so they need to be able to survive.

Dont get upset with me if someone else makes conclusions about your or my group.

As for my group, half are A++ amazing players, other half are more casual fun players. The BC doesnt require zomg leetness, just people that pay attention.

And again, you can win with your strat in less than 7?

[FailureMidgard]

And again, you can win with your strat in less than 7?

How is that pertinent? We zerged in in less than 1 with 5 people if that counts?

If you read my post, you'd see in 2 of them now I said ~9minutes with 2 DD on it.

[Neosutra]

So why the "we kill a little faster than Neo's group" comment? Not even sure where your animosity is coming from. I havent downed your strat or talked bad about your group, was just looking for times you get with your setup. As for zerg, I havent tried it, but is it standard rdm/drk, brd, melee zerg it down? Or more to it?

[FailureMidgard]

So why the "we kill a little faster than Neo's group" comment? Not even sure where your animosity is coming from. I havent downed your strat or talked bad about your group, was just looking for times you get with your setup. As for zerg, I havent tried it, but is it standard rdm/drk, brd, melee zerg it down? Or more to it?

because it seemed like he was talking down on our group, based on the fact our paladin doesn't have an aegis?

As for our timeline, its roughly ~2:15 into battlefield we engage, ~3:25 into battlefield we have him back at gate and our melee starts attacking, ~10:35 he dies. I'm not sure what your 7min is. And I have no animosity towards you, perhaps I just misunderstood your comments.

We only zerged once, our last tag last time because we only had 5 people, and didn't want to try our setup with 1 DD. We had rdm/drk, brd/whm, 2xsam, 1 KC drk. It seems really easy (but may be hard to get 14 tags in 1 week in if you rely on 2hrs)...you need stuns to shut down his counter, but I'm sure you can do it without a KC drk. The only thing is to make sure someone can sleep the adds also...our bard just did troub/night horde lull+lull and hit all 3 with that combination, then I think did 1 DS curaga and he was dead. I could be off on the exacts, that was a long time ago, but our server does have the BC again this week, we may end up zerging one at the end, who knows.

[Yugl]

because it seemed like he was talking down on our group, based on the fact our paladin doesn't have an aegis?

I'm about to clear all this mess in one quote link.

Initial Question:

With one PLD how long does each win take? as well how well geared is the PLD?

I had no experience with one PLD runs and only Neo posted the time it took to kill his NM, so I used his post as an answer.

Within that response:

Taken from another thread:
I assume his group is well geared though, so add a few min to the kill time.

As I mentioned, I know Neo is supposed to be a well geared PLD, so I told the poster that his group may take a bit more time due to gear difference.

Question about who's group I was talking about in that post (Neo's of course since I posted a quote from him):

Are you saying Neo's or mine? My group is definitely well geared, but ya, we have 1 less DD than them.

Response to that question:

I was talking about Neo's group since I assume everyone with Relic carries a full geared group.

The first half addresses the question and the second half explains why Neo might have a better group than Laverna. No attack on anyone was initiated until the following response.

[AzazaelFenrir]

This was available on Fenrir last week. My group did the burn strat we won 7 of the 9 times we went and only got 1 mantle and sash. Did they lower the drop rate or were we just unlucky? I didn't remember it being that bad.

[Rocl]

Just unlucky, I've still got back to back mantles etc. mantle mantle sash mantle is my favorite streak sofar

[Deimos]

What the hell is going on on Diabolos?

Cuchulain's Mantle - Diabolos - FFXIAH.com

34 Cuchulain's Mantles on AH and Dianan has purchased 17 of the last 24?

http://steam-punk.net/ffxi/diabolos_cuchulain.jpg

[Valisk]

Wow, 34 up and prices are holding steady/slightly rising?! That's surprising.

[Fallyn]

buying to sell later on when heirs isnt open for a bit of money?

[Deimos]

buying to sell later on when heirs isnt open for a bit of money?

They're Rare though, it's pretty difficult to hold on to 17 of them.

[Fallyn]

ohright, durr- it'll be something like that though.

[edit] can you still dbox rare stuff to yourself and the tag not really matter?

[Valisk]

They're Rare though, it's pretty difficult to hold on to 17 of them.

They can idle in Delievery Box. Think your main could hold 17 of them and each mule can hold 9.

[Yugl]

What the hell is going on on Diabolos?

Cuchulain's Mantle - Diabolos - FFXIAH.com

34 Cuchulain's Mantles on AH and Dianan has purchased 17 of the last 24?

http://steam-punk.net/ffxi/diabolos_cuchulain.jpg

That's pretty much how its always been on Diabolos. We used to have the price hit 2.2mil when Splitting heirs was back, but now certain individuals keep buying the mantles at higher prices. At one point the price went from 2.7-3mil to constant 3.5mil (Due to lack of OPs access), and since then it's been 3.2mil or higher regardless of whether we have the Ops. My guess is that these are the people making mules on other servers to transfer mantles.

[Marihoki]

We consistently have about a 2-6 person line in front of the gate during JP time to have their groups go in on Diabolos, and we have had control over the area almost 3 times in the last 2 months I believe.

I'm pretty sure whats happening is someones buying up all the mantles and selling them on other servers. My group got 3 mantles that got bought up instantly a week ago, and last night we did six runs and got 2 sashes that sold within a few hours, so people are still buying them..