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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyramion View Post
    I had some guy Servertransfer to me and buy my Hachiryu Sunate for 3.5mil and transfer back after....
    Wow <_<;; thats kinda like wtf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyramion View Post
    I had some guy Servertransfer to me and buy my Hachiryu Sunate for 3.5mil and transfer back after....
    I thought you could only transfer once every 3 months? That's what my friends who transferred said at least.

  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bozo View Post
    I thought you could only transfer once every 3 months? That's what my friends who transferred said at least.
    I think its one a month, and the guy probably transfered, bought, waited the month, and went back

  4. #104
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    A) It is a 3 month wait

    B) People use 2 Accounts to transfer items and gil back n forth asap

  5. #105
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    oh so you can't make a mule, move and get item, make another mule on same account, trade to the other mule and move back??

  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starr View Post
    oh so you can't make a mule, move and get item, make another mule on same account, trade to the other mule and move back??
    Nope.

  7. #107
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    Hello!!
    long time lurker but decided i finally have something to offer. I got a Brave grip last night and been messing with it on my war

    Raptors in Kuftal
    210-260 without grip
    230-316 with

    only killed maybe 30 so far will keep going and post what I see

  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by sibant View Post
    Hello!!
    long time lurker but decided i finally have something to offer. I got a Brave grip last night and been messing with it on my war

    Raptors in Kuftal
    210-260 without grip
    230-316 with

    only killed maybe 30 so far will keep going and post what I see
    Given the numbers (though pretty sparse) it looks to be around a 10% increase in damage like X's Knife. I'd suggest going WAR/THF and testing on rarabs in Ronfaure. Bonus points for using a parser.

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    btw how did you get it? buy?

  10. #110
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    So uh, sorry to bump this but I didn't see if it was found out where this came from yet.
    But on Asura:
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=15918

    Someone's selling one on the AH. Since march no country has controlled more than 2/3 area's at once, let alone everything. Its entirely possible its a server xfer but at the same time, why here?

  11. #111
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    there been few here on levithan, too I think people moving to random servers to sell them.

  12. #112
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    Theres 2 of these sashes in bazaars in rolanberry on bahamut.
    http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/c...Ayzen/sash.png

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    It makes sense to move to servers that haven't been able to choose the Campaign OP in question to sell the items.
    It is quite a spammable BCNM, so the demand and price would decrease rappidly on servers that has/have had access to it. On servers that have not had access yet the demand would be much higher.

  14. #114
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    A brave grip has been passed around on Remora. Results were underwhelming. Witch sash for sale in rolanmall for 6m last I looked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    For the love of god, will someone test and see what the amount of increase brave grip gives is?
    Not sure if this is OFN, but I tested Brave Grip this morning and came up with some disappointing results:

    Tested on Bees in South Gustaberg...

    Results with grip off were: 342, 340, 348, 334, 349

    Results with grip on were: 363, 355, 353, 358, 354

    It's a small sample size, so I can't really point to a specific percentage, but it really makes me wonder if it really is a % damage increase the same way that X's Knife is. If so, these figures would put it extremely low, somewhere in the 3%-7% range, nowhere near the 10%-15% that has been mentioned.

    I've seen wildly different results from people testing on higher level mobs, which makes me wonder if this grip affects the PDIF of critical hits in lieu of a flat damage bonus... however, I'm not that much of a math whiz so I've got no clue how to test or confirm that. If anyone has any ideas I'd be happy to help with the legwork.

  16. #116
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    I started with a small sample size earlier this week, 10 with and 10 without Brave Grip. I came up with a little over a 4% increase in damage. It's not a large enough sample yet, so I plan to add to the list as time allows. I would venture to say it's a 5% increase overall given what others have reported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthe View Post
    I started with a small sample size earlier this week, 10 with and 10 without Brave Grip. I came up with a little over a 4% increase in damage. It's not a large enough sample yet, so I plan to add to the list as time allows. I would venture to say it's a 5% increase overall given what others have reported.
    Yeah, the average on my end was just over 4% too - where and how did you test? I'm thinking I might give it a try on something with higher defense... I'm still holding out hope that this grip is worthwhile, but chances are it isn't.

  18. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluid View Post
    Yeah, the average on my end was just over 4% too - where and how did you test? I'm thinking I might give it a try on something with higher defense... I'm still holding out hope that this grip is worthwhile, but chances are it isn't.
    I tested on DRG/THF using SA on Wild Rabbits in East Ronfaure. I have a spreadsheet of my results calculating max, min, and averages for Brave Grip and no Brave Grip, and % damage increase (Brave Grip average/no Brage Grip average).

    I think it might be worth using over Pole Grip in instances where you rely on a multi-hit critical weapon skills and your critical hit rate would be higher than your double attack rate. I can't really back that up at the moment without some good parses first.

  19. #119
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    Here's what I had with parser on kuftal crabs as soboro SAM/DNC:

    Brave grip:
    Hit/Miss: 1019/59
    #Crit: 202
    C.Low/Hi: 51/146
    C.Avg: 110,34
    Crit%: 19,82 %


    No Brave grip:
    Hit/Miss: 1043/63
    #Crit: 220
    C.Low/Hi: 37/140
    C.Avg: 104,59
    Crit%: 21,09 %


    Almost exactly 5% increase in damage and for sure no hit rate increase ^^

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    How shit.

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