Unidentified Object in Space, Scientists Puzzled

[Max™]

Yeah, I try at times.

It's just... well, everything is connected to everything else, so I'm going a little insane, like that stupid number 23 movie, except with time, and space, and everything.

I start in with one concept, which morphs into another by the time I finish typing the sentence.

[Aerin]

Sometimes I have to read Max's posts twice to fully understand it, but I don't think I have as much trouble as Woozie does lol.

It's all good you're both cool in my book. :D

[Reality]

i love reading these kinds of discussions, i learn a lot from them

dont let it die

[Max™]

It's probably that Woozie is more of a logic and mathematics type thinker, and I'm well a words and images type thinker.

The understanding I have is from a really weird intuition, and oddly clear view of the concepts involved.

Also, regarding a claim I made a while back.

http://i341.photobucket.com/albums/o...sinspace-2.jpg

I posted a version of this before, and made a claim that the LHC will discover a sign of a dark matter particle, I now have specific predictions about the particle I'm calling the photino.

The LHC will not find a Higgs particle, rather it will discover a sign of a dark matter particle, which I am tentatively calling the Photino. I believe this particle will be a tetraquark, đuūd, with a mass of roughly 1.25 GeV, 0 Charge (1/3, 2/3, -2/3, -1/3), 0 Spin (-½, ½, ½, -½), fulfilling the role of dark matter very well.

Wish me luck, hell of a ballsy move I'm making here.

[Darus Grey]

http://www.particlezoo.net/shop.html#packs

Better looking particles!

[Obev]

I'm used to strange views on the universe, I'm just not used to strange sentence structures lol

Am I crazy here? Am I the only one who has trouble understanding your structure?

You're not alone, but I fear it's the whole quantum relativity thing that's confusing me, rather than the sentences.

The LHC will not find a Higgs particle, rather it will discover a sign of a dark matter particle, which I am tentatively calling the Photino. I believe this particle will be a tetraquark, đuūd, with a mass of roughly 1.25 GeV, 0 Charge (1/3, 2/3, -2/3, -1/3), 0 Spin (-½, ½, ½, -½), fulfilling the role of dark matter very well.

No wait, it's both.

[Kaylia]

The first paragraph doesn't contradict the second at all.

Here's the easiest example I can think of.

Imagine an ant crawling across a balloon.

The ant has a maximum velocity at which it can travel across the balloon.

Sound can travel through the skin of the balloon faster than the ant can, and the speed of sound through the skin is in fact the maximum velocity for this hypothetical ant (he's very fast) to line the example up better.

The balloon can be blown up faster than sound can move through it's skin, and much faster than the ant can move across it.

Any sound waves moving through the balloons skin as it is blown up will be stretched out by the expansion.

Replace the balloon with space, sound with light, and the ant with matter. The stretched out sound waves are the cosmic microwave background.

You just explained the first half about the expansion of the universe, I've no issue with this part. If the ant doesn't walk fast enough to reach B from A in 13.7 billions year, then B won't see any ant. Expansion or not. The brightness of sky isn't a proof that the universe is finite, it will be in an infite amount of year when every photon will reach us (and it wouldnt be bright, all those photon would be red shifted)

Anyway, got to run to school "now" and didnt have time to think much about it. It's not impossible I'm totally off, but there is something that is bothering me with your reasoning earlier.


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What you said would be a proof that the universe isn't infinitly old, in an universe that doesn't expand....but most physicians accept that now.

[Max™]

We can see the general background of the CMB.

It is uniform.

If it was the edge of an expanding observable sphere through an infinite universe, it wouldn't be uniform as it is.

That smoothness was kind of the death knell for the infinite/steady state universe, hard to explain as that is.

Also: lol, I hear ya Obev. Just do like I do and disregard the quantum mechanics part, it's all just Relativity, baby. :D

Also: to explain why a 1.25 GeV mass particle hadn't been found yet, it would take a very high energy density for gravity to be strong enough to probe for a particle that didn't interact noticeably any other way.

[Demisses]

lets just hurry up and discover warp so we can get out there and find out

[Groovebox]

All this talk reminds me of the best short work of science-fiction ever written, The Last Question by Isaac Asimov

http://filer.case.edu/dts8/thelastq.htm

[Max™]

Well, we'll be able to construct Kerr Metrics and hop from Universe to Universe before entropy reaches maximum. Just need a sufficient mastery of the materials of a Universe, and the time to build them. Which with refinement would become shorter and simpler every time. :D

For thinking along the lines of one Universe though, that was pretty good. :D

[Blarg]

Is max talking about things that other scientists think/consider to be true or is he just talking crazy.

[Max™]

I'm talking about things that are regularly considered by scientists, but generally overlooked as a serious option because they involve loosening the rules of causality.

We can see that there is a lot of mass in the universe that doesn't show up.

We've yet to find a good candidate for it. I suspect that I have, by considering this view of adjusted causal interaction.

If you look into why Einstein didn't like quantum theory, you will find the EPR Paradox, and Bell's Theorem.

Essentially stated, if you entangle a pair of particles, quantum mechanics predicts that the state of one when observed will influence the state of the other, even separated by great distances.

This conflicts with special relativity, which says that nothing, not even information, can travel faster than light.

Yet, when you perform the experiment, you can separate an entangled pair, have two observers a great distance apart, and when one observes one part of the pair, the other will instantly observe the corresponding state in their part of the pair.

Quantum Mechanics says it is accomplished by an entangled waveform spread across the space between them.

I say it is a result of the particles interacting with time differently than we're used too.

Observer A sees that particle a has upward spin, so Observer B sees that particle b has downward spin.

In my view, Observer A changes the state of the entangled pair in the past with their observation, and B simply sees this retrocausal adjustment.

[Blarg]

I say it is a result of the particles interacting with time differently than we're used too.

Did you come up with this specific theory on your own or did someone else and you like it for whatever reason.

[Max™]

I noticed the requirement to fulfill Bell's Inequality was give up locality and maintain causality, or give up causality and maintain locality.

That combined with my noticing an odd choice in one of Einsteins equations, where he decided that the rate of time at infinite distance from a body of mass would be 1, led me to this theory I'm developing.

I wish I could have talked to Einstein about this, as extending the interaction of a particle with time works so well to describe reality.

You move smoothly from high time dilations at relativistic velocities/masses, down to the classical realm of normal experience, into an inversely dilated region of time which looks like quantum mechanics.

[Neosutra]

No Max Q.Q

[Doombard]

Ok gentlemen: Tachyons- GO

[gandorf]

We would know what it is already if someone got off their lazy ass and invented.

[Hawky]

no srsly, this Champion of Christ figured it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1Yo610lG0

That guy needs a bible slap to the face

[Surealistic]

Ok random think I've always wondered.

You guys are saying the universe is 46 billion light years across. Ok cool, fine. I'll roll with that.

But what is outside that?

obviously the answer is pie, lots and lots of pie

(at least i hope )