Wich is best Penta Thrust Equip for a drg?

[oscurodrago]

Guys for u wich is the best Penta Thrust Equip?

Atm i using: http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=29415

Thalassocrat
Pole Grip
Smart Grenade
Hecatomb Cap
Hecatomb Harness
Hecatomb Mittens
Hct. Leggings
Ares's Flanchard
Pixie Earring
Brutal Earring
Ulthalam's Ring
Rajas Ring
Love Torque
Potent Belt
Forager's Mantle


but from when i replaced Chivarous Chain with Love torque and Askar Dirs With Ares's Flanchard
i noticed my Penta Thrust instead of incrase damage they reduced a lot...

so what u recommend to use with Penta Thrust for increase DMG? (obviously don't say me Gunghir or Heca+1 ^.^ they are out my range)


thx.

[Arthars]

wow u made a new thread for this O_O

for earring, i would prefer 2 str earrings but that just me
heca body vs askar body is debatable. Since you have ares legs, combining with pole grip + brutal + Askar body will give u a decent DA rate which is good for multi hit WSs. But for multi hit WSs, acc is also important. so it scales down to what mob your fighting.

and when u mean WS damage goes down, u mean u have a parser running?

or simply eyeball?

and if your using a parser, did you parse on same mobs over same amount of time?

i asked because i think swapping a neck and a leg piece of "similar calibre" should have a lil difference but wont be "a lot"

[oscurodrago]

eyeball + parser say me same think... dmg on grater colibri and on mammol is reduced over 200 with pentatrust ; ;

yes i know accuracy is important for weapon skill... but the only think thought is use Ares gaunlet instead of Hecatomb Mittens and for that reason i started to make salvage for that

[Arthars]

so chiv chain + askar pants VS love torque + ares legs show 200+ average WS damage difference on your parser for BOTH bird and mamool camp?

i dont know if thats possible tho 200 damage is alot but dont seem this 2 set can produce such differences

3 str 4 dex 10 acc 5 att(excluding str and dex bonus) vs 7 skill 6 str 11 dex 2% DA cannot possibly be 200 damage difference, especially the latter losing out.

you should eat similar food in similar camp in similar duration and check ur parser again O_O

[Akanei]

Dirs are garbage, stop using them. You gain a total of 3 accuracy while losing out on everything ares legs has to offer.

The two best pieces you can use for your neck are shadow gorget or love torque, so stick to those.

Personally, I stopped using hecatomb in my wses because I stopped needing the accuracy from it and switched over to askar when I got it.

As for your earrings... brutal+str earring or use something that gives attack. The dex won't really add anything to your damage and if it's for accuracy, you may as well use a fowling earring.

[Gunslinger]

The only way you're losing 200 damage is if you're missing a hit... besides that, it makes no sense.

Do you have polearm merits?

[oscurodrago]

8/8 merit polearm + 7skill point of love torque
VS colibri i tryed use food sushi but they steal it always.... XD
VS mammool i used squid sushi but same result, i tryed with both /sam and /war
but my average weapon skill damage is lowerd by 200 O.o

[Vigilia]

You must've just had a bad stroke of luck. How big is the sample parse you based this on? Unless we're talking several hundred WSs in both setups it could just be a random occurrance. Statistics are annoying, I thought for a while that Homam Corazza was shit because for the first week or so of having it I didn't see a single triple attack proc and then out of nowhere they started raining in. Were you getting same songs and rollls in both instances? If you had songs/rolls, did you have a decent BRD|COR with you or some gimptard who sings all songs with Maple Harp?

[LakshmiToralyn]

eyeball + parser say me same think... dmg on grater colibri and on mammol is reduced over 200 with pentatrust ; ;

your fucking lying. post the parses.


Something was different food, bard songs something. You wouldnt loose 200 AVG if you took those slots completly off and didnt equip anything.

[Gunslinger]

Stop using sushi, for the love of god. Eating mithkabobs is going to do more for your parse than any marginal gear swaps from what you're wearing.

You have serious acc overload for birds. If you're hitting all your hits and your damage actually has dropped that much, the posters before me are absolutely right in thinking it was probably a difference in songs.

[Xanthe]

My initial response was going to be not enough accuracy, but given merits and the gear you have listed, that's apparently not the case. You also used the 'S' word (Sushi), so I'm going to have to go with not enough attack. Here's my current Penta Thrust setup.

http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=28477

8/8 Polearm merits
Thalassocrat
Pole Grip
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Tiphia Sting
Hecatomb Cap
Love Torque
Assault Earring
Brutal Earring
Ares's Cuirass
Hecatomb Mittens
Rajas Ring
Flame Ring
Forager's Mantle
Warwolf Belt
Ares's Flanchard
Hecatomb Leggings

As a DRG (and a 2-handed melee in general) you should never need to eat sushi. If I'm meriting at Greater Colibri I'm popping Mithkabobs like candy. In a good party on mamools I'll use Hedgehog Pie, otherwise I use Coeurl Subs for that and everything else. I parse capped accuracy (95%) on Greater Colibri without accuracy songs/rolls, and ~93% on Mamools with one madrigal. As a rule for multi-hit weapon skills you should first find out how much accuracy you need to get your hit rate between 90-95% on melee swings, translate that much accuracy to your weapon skill build, and fill the rest of your slots with STR/Attack. And again, for the love of God, eat meat.

A couple parses:

DRG/SAM at Greater Colibri with Meat Mithkabobs, Samurai Roll (SAM in party), Chaos Roll (no DRK in party), March, Minuet. Also the day before I got Hecatomb Cap, so using Ares's Mask instead.
http://i38.tinypic.com/2vxj60g.jpg

DRG/SAM at Nyzul Isle Mamools with Hedgehog Pie, 2x Minuet, March, Madrigal. Now with Hecatomb Cap.
http://i37.tinypic.com/2mzbj9h.jpg

Ignore the total damage %, I wasn't exactly up against the strongest competition. Focus on the accuracy and weapon skill damage.

[Arthars]

this is the way how it should be

parse or it didnt happen

i still think your "200 damage decrease" is eyeball only

and u ate the wrong food on both camp lol.....go meat for bird and subs for mamools man, why would drg need sushi anyway. this is just for future reference