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    Is this realistic

    A Thf using a Justice sword in off hand, with capped sword merits, suppa, and whose gear is STR based for shark bite.

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    Nope. Justice sword is only a viable offhand against extremely weak mobs on THF, and you should never stack STR for THF ws because SA/TA mods are much more potent. A RDM has 40 more sword skill than a THF does, how often do you see RDMs meleeing?

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    it is realistic only if your farming low mobs like spider webs

    ridill or kris is better tho, if you have the luck and gils getting them respectively

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    Ts and under = kool weapon, anything higher is... Ewy. Makes for a badass campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    Nope. Justice sword is only a viable offhand against extremely weak mobs on THF, and you should never stack STR for THF ws because SA/TA mods are much more potent. A RDM has 40 more sword skill than a THF does, how often do you see RDMs meleeing?
    Way more often than I'd like...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geostigma View Post
    A Thf using a Justice sword in off hand, with capped sword merits, suppa, and whose gear is STR based for shark bite.
    In what situation? For any HNM situation where you are /nin, and only dmg is coming from WS (like Ixion for example), then yes it's not horrible (it's 1 more base dmg higher than a blau, and +7 str) however I forget if attack is checked on offhand swings in WS for that WS only or if it's from mainhand.
    Not ideal for meritting as you can do better with another dagger.

    Btw this sword is great for skeleton floor in limbus with a club in mainhand and virtue stones in ranged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geostigma View Post
    whose gear is STR based for shark bite.
    Shark Bite is DEX based, not STR.

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    If you happen to have a Mandau though, Mercy is STR based.

    (yeah, long stretch, I know)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aihree View Post
    If you happen to have a Mandau though, Mercy is STR based.

    (yeah, long stretch, I know)
    I'm pretty sure you'd get a better boost in damage from X's than 7 STR.

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    Depends on what you're using it for.
    Definitely not for HNMs and evasive merit mobs.

    If you are using sushi, its definitely useable for limbus, city dynamis, nyzul, lower floors of salvage etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    how often do you see RDMs meleeing?
    Far too often ._.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurara View Post
    Shark Bite is DEX based, not STR.
    STR is part of the WS damage formula, and stacking it on any non-elemental ws, has a similar effect of stacking the normal modifiers. On top of that, adding str also adds atk, which is also part of the WS damage formula.

    http://blog.peoplenewspapers.com/wp-...e_you_know.jpg

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    But with a 50% DEX modifier to ws dmg, wouldn't you get more out of pumping DEX? I've never really ever bothered using the WS except out of boredom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradition View Post
    But with a 50% DEX modifier to ws dmg, wouldn't you get more out of pumping DEX? I've never really ever bothered using the WS except out of boredom.
    Most of the decent DEX gear for WS has STR on it also (Heca) -- And I think even on a 1:1 ratio (Like for rings and such), STR will outperform that 1 point of DEX. Pixie Earring/Minuet would be the earrings I use for WS, and then probably Flame/Rajas. I doubt DEX will outperform STR if you go 1:1, even for Shark Bite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burginator View Post
    Most of the decent DEX gear for WS has STR on it also (Heca) -- And I think even on a 1:1 ratio (Like for rings and such), STR will outperform that 1 point of DEX. Pixie Earring/Minuet would be the earrings I use for WS, and then probably Flame/Rajas. I doubt DEX will outperform STR if you go 1:1, even for Shark Bite.
    No, it won't. SA and TA are equivalent to 100% AGI and DEX mods for the first hit of SB, and it being only a 2hit ws destroys any hope of STR being worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleekmotorwurkz View Post
    STR is part of the WS damage formula, and stacking it on any non-elemental ws, has a similar effect of stacking the normal modifiers. On top of that, adding str also adds atk, which is also part of the WS damage formula.

    http://blog.peoplenewspapers.com/wp-...e_you_know.jpg
    STR is specifically part of the fSTR formula, which could end up capped. mods are always uncapped. As usual, shit is situational, it depends on how many of each stat you can get, how much it takes to raise damage, whether or not your fSTR is capped, etc. And I'm not even going to respond to the atk part.

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