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    Again, Barry should've stopped before his re-close.

    Truth is, most voters don't give a rat's ass what other people think of the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis View Post
    Oh and McCain, pls elaborate on your masterful plan of eliminating 100 B in earmarks. Why doesn't Obama pounce on that shit like purple drank?
    Hell if he would elaborate on how he was going to take care of the veterans I'm sure it would be great, but of course he has nothing besides a tearjerker story.

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    what the fuck??? taht's mccain's wife??

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    I was in vietnam guys, I let people go home before me.

    If he's elected, and we STILL hear him using that line, seriously, it's fucking on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristam View Post
    It also won't produce anything for years and years, hell the oil companies aren't even using all the areas given to them under current laws, but the republican base dosen't care about lies when they like what they think it will mean.
    That's because the land congress has given the oil companies has jack for supply. It's been proven that the major supply of our offshore oil lies within 50 miles of our borders. But they can't touch it due to the moratorium.

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    Immediate response: McCain was stronger than I thought, but overall I'm giving the edge to Obama if only for him being confrontational like I thought he needed to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bingbong View Post
    Again, Barry should've stopped before his re-close.

    Truth is, most voters don't give a rat's ass what other people think of the United States.
    Actually, I just think you think everything Obama ever says is absolutely anti-American and hate everything he says.

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    Debate is over. I think Obama basically won this debate. He conquered all of McCain's points, and even called him out on lies (Kissinger).

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    I like how Obama talked about education and the republican responce dipped down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bingbong View Post
    Again, Barry should've stopped before his re-close.

    Truth is, most voters don't give a rat's ass what other people think of the United States.
    I dont think thats necessarily true, because clearly that shit doesnt make us safer

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    This thread was awesome... the way you guys were commenting on the debate it was almost like I was watching a sporting event.

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    That's the main theme of his debate style.

    Stress his experience. Talk about the troops in a warm narrative form (he's a former soldier so he will be more attuned to a soldier's vibe).

    and

    Fear-monger. Talk about Israel being threatend with extinction and perpetuate the (LIE)genocidal comments made by Ahmedinejad.

    There's plenty of other lies McCain tells throughout the debate. Such as characterizing the conflict in Kosovo as a success and a prevention of GENOCIDE (which is an insult to the victims of REAL genocides and ethnic cleansings).

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    I think McCain got the most out of it.

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    I expected Obama to win this hands down - since this format serves Obama better (he's a much better speaker). That being said, both candidates did very well.

    This debate should have been about the economy. Both guys were too scared to come out with an opinion.

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    nice, all white commentator on CNN

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    McCain is very good about touting his experience and his vision of Iraq importance even if it's fundamentally false or unfounded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin View Post
    Immediate response: McCain was stronger than I thought, but overall I'm giving the edge to Obama if only for him being confrontational like I thought he needed to be.
    This

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    I like how Mccain didnt even look at Obama when they shook hands when it was over.

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    And he emphasizes that he's also aggresive (Maverick for justice, "didn't win Miss Congeneality...") etc.

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