Current Alexandrite and currency prices on other servers

[Minions]

After you flag Duties, Tasks and Deeds, the ??? will explain how to use the Assault memoires. Helpful stuff since Paparoon can barely form a coherent sentence.

Trade any amount of alexandrite up to 99x8 and it pops a porogo madam that doubles the amount. Make sure you have an empty inventory to hold 8+ stacks of items.

But no really, it is for the assaults memories explanation, I just cleared the 1st part and talked to the rat, and clicked the ??? after.

[Ruin]

Once you can talk like you're not fresh out of an AOL chatroom I might take you more seriously.

As for relics, I just mean that compared to other servers, we have very very few relics. 'At least 10 NA relics' is nothing, lol. I'm not in an HNMls because the majority of them on Siren act like assholes (could you be any more representative of that?)

I've had people buy alexes for 10k out of my bazaar recently, I don't know who or why (I never actually see whoever buys my shit for some reason). As for Siren's endgame being dead, I don't feel the need to justify what I said. Sorry that my experience differs from yours so vastly, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

They AOL chatroom joke was good. I liked that one ill have to remember it.

All I was doing was pointing out how wrong you were about the relic situation on Siren. (Saying Siren has 10 relics and 8/10 are JP) Why even post what you know nothing about. And thats great you arent in a hnmls, that gives you right to call them assholes?

[Ruin]

Erm, Endgame isn't just about Relic and Mythic weapons.

ERM, where did I say endgame was just about Relic/Mythic?

I said "There is atleast 10 NA relics and multiple NA starting mythic, (notice the "," at this point, meaning that im not talking about Relic/Mythic anymore) as for end game being dead, im assuming its just ur LS? I also know alot of succesful salvage groups and players who have 5+ pieces completed.

[Minions]

Hm.. still unsure of the situation. If it turns out you only need to complete 3/4 of the requirements for that quest... then alexandrites are gonna drop in price like crazy... and people buying now will waste quite a bit of gil. (quite a bit more if they already turned them in to the npc) We won't know for awhile about having 3 of the requirements done, and seeing if you proceed or not. (and a JP will probably finish all 3 first.. and no telling if we'll get any info regarding it). From the outlook of the drop rates being how they are, it wouldn't be surprising if they didn't mean for this to be the only way to complete the quest. Obviously I'm optimistic, but I wouldn't go spending 130m, while not even knowing if you /must/ complete all 4.

Just how I feel about the current situation regarding alexandrites.

[Neosutra]

Hm.. still unsure of the situation. If it turns out you only need to complete 3/4 of the requirements for that quest... then alexandrites are gonna drop in price like crazy... and people buying now will waste quite a bit of gil. (quite a bit more if they already turned them in to the npc) We won't know for awhile about having 3 of the requirements done, and seeing if you proceed or not. (and a JP will probably finish all 3 first.. and no telling if we'll get any info regarding it). From the outlook of the drop rates being how they are, it wouldn't be surprising if they didn't mean for this to be the only way to complete the quest. Obviously I'm optimistic, but I wouldn't go spending 130m, while not even knowing if you /must/ complete all 4.

Just how I feel about the current situation regarding alexandrites.

No, its all 4.

Why is anyone still even considering this.

[Minions]

I still cling to hope of...

Yooo done all three jobs Empress ask for!
Paparoon very impressed!≺Prompt≻

False hope, probably, but still

Although I don't remember if I already got that line from the previous quest, I didn't pay that much attention.

[Silenka]

http://www.ffxiah.com/relics.php?dt=3

Shit, you weren't kidding.

I know I wasn't lol. Siren is fail. But I still <3 it even so.

At least we're undefeated in Besieged! XD

[Sekkite]

http://www.ffxiah.com/relics.php?dt=3

Shit, you weren't kidding.

I don't think that list can check people who are normally /anon. I know it isn't accurate since I've seen someone with a Gungnir on Bahamut, which isn't listed under the Bahamut relic list.

[Minions]

I don't think that list can check people who are normally /anon. I know it isn't accurate since I've seen someone with a Gungnir on Bahamut, which isn't listed under the Bahamut relic list.

Its user submitted.

[Silenka]

Accurate or not, we're still on the bottom of the list, trust me ; ; Hahah.

[Valkrish]

2-4k on sylph now *'-')

[Neosutra]

I still cling to hope of...

Yooo done all three jobs Empress ask for!
Paparoon very impressed!≺Prompt≻

False hope, probably, but still

Although I don't remember if I already got that line from the previous quest, I didn't pay that much attention.

Ya and when you go to turn your excal currency in the npc will give you all the currency back you've turned in for the quest.

[Pergatory]

No, its all 4.

Why is anyone still even considering this.

QFT. SE said the mythic weapons would be similar in difficulty to the relic weapons. Three of the four requirements here can be done in about 6 months by a semi-casual player, way less effort than is required for a relic weapon. The alexandrites are like 90% of the quest. They won't be optional.

Anyway, lots of people still buying for 5k on Asura... somehow I doubt they all have 150 mil stashed away though so it'll come down soon enough. I've been buying for 2-3k each. Up to about 700 now...

[orson]

QFT. SE said the mythic weapons would be similar in difficulty to the relic weapons. Three of the four requirements here can be done in about 6 months by a semi-casual player, way less effort than is required for a relic weapon. The alexandrites are like 90% of the quest. They won't be optional.

Anyway, lots of people still buying for 5k on Asura... somehow I doubt they all have 150 mil stashed away though so it'll come down soon enough. I've been buying for 2-3k each. Up to about 700 now...

You really haven't done the math on that have you because you're very wrong. Unless you're talking about a hardcore player that uses every single assault tag they have and goes to einherjar twice a week. If you have a LS sponsoring relics you can probably finish them way faster than mythics.

[Neosutra]

You really haven't done the math on that have you because you're very wrong. Unless you're talking about a hardcore player that uses every single assault tag they have and goes to einherjar twice a week. If you have a LS sponsoring relics you can probably finish them way faster than mythics.

wut?

Hardcore = coming to 2 30 min events a week and doing assaults?

[orson]

wut?

Hardcore = coming to 2 30 min events a week and doing assaults?

Ok maybe not hardcore but very dedicated. Give me a break you know perfectly well it's not exactly easy for most people to show up for an event every day. Einherjar and assaults does not necessarily mean 30 min events if you take into account travel time waiting for people to gather, etc. Not to mention I'm sure that assaults you're not going to win every day and Nyzul Isle unless you're spamming the final few levels the amount of points is less. As it stands it's impossible that the requirements even apart from the alexandrites are going to be plausible for a semi-casual player to complete in 6 months. As a note if you're in a LS that is able to kill the required NMs I'm guessing you also have other obligations to attend other events. That's not even taking into account the regular things like farming and exp that most players do on a regular basis.

[Vodou]

As it stands it's impossible that the requirements even apart from the alexandrites are going to be plausible for a semi-casual player to complete in 6 months.

I agree. Semi casual players should not be getting these weapons. SE agrees as well. These are not meant to be obtained by more than a couple % of the active player base.

SE has said that in clear terms at least twice. And yet the same posts keep getting made as if SE is not aware of what they are doing.

Its not going to be easy. Its not going to be common. Its not going to be cheap.

[Neosutra]

Id still rather the quests be insanely difficult and simply overwhelming than attatch yet another price tag on it.

Fucking require every title in the game to beat + the other shit, and save the 100 mil for elsewhere.

[kwontess]

I agree semi-casual players should not be given the weapons, they aren't for everyone. I guess I misunderstood though, I had thought at one point SE said that mythic weapons would be made more accessible to players than relic. I've looked and can't find the quote so I'm probably mistaken.

The real issue with the alexandrite in my mind is its not a team goal. Every other part of this quest is being done simultaneously for everyone in your group. The Alexandrite is one person only.

Even assumeing that SE said that the quest was going to be equally difficult, its substantially more so. I have no problem if this is a 1-2 year endeavor, but its much more than that unless you're okay screwing over other people. At least in dynamis you can sponsor. I can offer to pay for a dyna run, so it makes some sense (although not total) that I get all the currency. There is no such option in salvage. What do other people get (yes they get salvage gear, but evenwith SE drop rates 300-400 salvage runs is really pressing it).

If you could average 80 alex a run and do 5 runs a week it would take 75 weeks and thats giving every single alexandrite to 1 person. Why does that one person deserve it more than the rest? It suffers from a similar flaw that dyna currency does (team effort to benefit one person), except even more so here.

The rest of the mythic weapon system is beautiful because its a team effort. It rewards you for working together. My complaint isn't as much the time required for the person who gets it as it is the time required for those who don't, and then all the other stuff you have to do.

I would rather SE just say "Do 400 salvage runs". Each time you get some key item and when you hit 400 you've done it. It rewards everyone equally.

If you add up all the time needed for mythic its roughly double that of relic. Its not even close to being in the same league. Maybe in a couple years it will be more accessible, but as it stands, its just a lot more work than relic.

I'm not one to typically complain about stuff being time consuming. I was actually one of the few very disappointed with the nyzul adjustment, I was happy with how it was before (already climbed it 3 times). Its more that SE had an opportunity to create a quest that took a lot of effort, that took a lot of time that was truly a group effort and benefitted everyone. Then they blew it at the last minute and pit group members against eachother. I realize this is how most of ffxi works, but it could have been something unique, considering all the other requirements are done together. Make us meet some salvage requirement 300-400 times, but to make a group go 350-400 times just to give everything to 1 person is rather lame. What other task in ffxi do you have to get people to reapeat 400ish times for 1 person to get something?

I know people will counter that other people get armor from salvage and they do. But everyone goes into salvage equal, nobody is sponsoring, why does one person deserve mythic and the rest not?

Lets be realistic, the first people who get mythic aren't necessarily going to be the ones who put in the most time, who put in the most effort. They are going to be favorites in big shells that decide to sponsor them. Thats fine, thats a shell's decision, but every other aspect you really have to earn, it would have been nice if the final requirement was actually doing something instead of just being able to trade enough alexandrite, and if that something could have been done together to benefit everyone.

[Zumi]

If you are buying alexandrite at 3500 each which seems to be about average on most servers you end up with a 105m weapon. Which is pretty much similar to dynamis relics in terms of cost. SE did say they wanted them to be about the same difficulty to get. SE doesn't like making things come easy they love timesinks so people will play more and pay them.

The other requirements aren't so bad the assaults and Einherjar, probably do take more work then attestation and fragment though, unless your attestation doesn't drop for a long time.