Dynamis Tavnazia Question

[Zubuis]

When you click on the ??? for the extentsions on 2f and 3f for Dynamis-Tavnazia what exact mobs does this all pop? Does it repop all the eyes and hornets you just cleared to get to the ??? or does just pop stuff in the initial hallway or what?

If it does pop everything, whats the best area for the alliance to camp prior to hitting the ???

Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks

[Suiram]

It pops an exact copy of the entire floor, regardless of what you have pulled or killed, with the only exception being that the eyes in the hallway where the ??? is located repop between the two sets of bees on each side.

As for camping, you have two options, have everyone far away out in the inner ring of the map, and one person pops the ??? and warps, or have everyone huddled inside when it pops and kill your way back out (this might only be feasible on the 2nd floor due to the location of the eyes on the third).

[Eraphiel]

The way my old shell did it, and the way I did it when leading tav runs, was after the entire area up to the ??? was cleared and we were done farming what our target on that floor would be, the entire ally would back out to a spot on the inner ring, or move up to the next floor, etc. Then, either he or I, whichever was leading at the time, would run in, drop glass, and hit the ??? with just enough time left before getting booted back out.

Get a fresh glass from a doorman, rejoin the group, wipe the 15min dyn-entry weakness in pulling stuff again for a briefer weakness, and you're golden.

[Teorem]

It's actually not a "copy" of the entire floor when you hit the ???; it's a completely new Vanguard Eye set with potentially different spawns from each one (and the Vanguard Eyes themselves are in different positions from the ones up prior to the ??? being hit).

The camp spots are the typical ones, but you just need to be acutely aware of the risk of aggro if you camp inside (closer to the ???). The central area outside the tunnel has the least risk, but since you have to clear the tunnel again to get to things inside (eg., Nightmare Leeches), the tradeoff is the time lost doing that.

Dropping your hourglass and hitting the ??? right before you get kicked out is, in my opinion, by far the best approach we've used. The only caveat is that you need to make sure you don't have hate on anything that could possibly head your way before you hit the ???. It's very possible that you will wipe the alliances as a result when you disappear from the zone and that Nightmare Leech that was on its way to own you links and trains everything back out the tunnel to the waiting alliance.

Not that I've ever done this before myself...

Reentering Dynamis gives you a ten-minute weakness.

[Halon50]

I'm pretty sure any hate received is alliance-wide; thus if you drop from the alliance then run to the ???, any aggro you get on the way will just lose hate as you exit dynamis due to dropping the hourglass.

[Teorem]

Anything you aggro along the way will lose hate after you leave the zone--though it makes for harder pulling later on--but I'm referring specifically to things that were previously pulled that one might have hate on (ie., from previously sleeping them).

[Izzy]

You both know that when you pop the ???, if you just stand still nothing can aggro you right Q_Q?

Just drop your glass after you hit the ??? and don't move lol.

[Secksi]

I set my homepoint in the safehold. For one ??? I use Tavnazian Ring, for the other a warp cudgel.

Only pulled/done Tavnazia 4 times but this is what I do. We always camp the inner ring for pulls as well.

[Lordwafik]

For the Hydra, my LS has done both the sac and work your way from the inside, as well as the gather the whole LS to you and fight your way out. I preferred the sac and re-enter method personally, less chance of a big F up.

[Suiram]

It's actually not a "copy" of the entire floor when you hit the ???; it's a completely new Vanguard Eye set with potentially different spawns from each one (and the Vanguard Eyes themselves are in different positions from the ones up prior to the ??? being hit).

You know, I think you're right. I was thinking of the North Kindred pulls which do pop the same mobs except with one extra Taurus per pop. Did a Tav the other day for the first time in a year so I'm a bit rusty on the details. The main point I was trying to emphasize, though, is that anything you didn't pull prior to hitting the ??? now has twice the mobs (+/- one or two depending on which pull) if you try to go for it after.