RP'ing your FFXI Char

[Akira]

I've met a few people who actually do this.. but was wondering how many have had it change around... So was wondering how people handled this..

Since FFXI is an MMORPG I'm sure their's a lot of people in the game who play an opposite sex char, ex males as Mithra's, or females as Galka (yes they exist lol).. but instead of mixing their RL, they use their char to RP who they prefer to be, just to get away from all the crap IRL..

Now that's not so uncommon and lots of people do it.. My curiousity is..

When you actually find a 'home' or really good friends in the game that want to meet you, but only know you as your Char, do you take the risk of being shunned to reveal who you are in RL, or do you keep playing your char and ignore it?

I'm not sure why, but I've heard some hate stories from people about them being friends with a 'character', but when they actually wanted to be real friends and told them who they were, they got kicked from shells, and/or hated by so many people.

What's the big deal?

This is just one of my random thoughts and figured I'd do some research into it just to give me something to do. Thanks.

P.s hope this is the right section. o.O If not please move, sorry. XD

[Lordwafik]

Depends. Only person / people I see being kicked from shells is say, someone who lies about themself to get into the shell, when they're really someone else.

You call it RPing, I call it blatantly lying to my face.

[Akira]

But what if they're not lying to have an advantage is the game. What if they are just trying to keep it a simple RP to themselves. Only thing that wouldn't be true is that their char is a char, and not a real person. How is that hurting anyone else?

[Lordwafik]

If they're not lying, and genuinely RPing a character, sure that's innocent.

If they are "RPing" a real life behind the character, that's lying.

[BRP]

First off, Galka are not really male only. They are asexual.

Now roleplaying, at least the kind you speak of, is not really connected to FFXI. Roleplaying FFXI would be going in-character and acting like you were in Vana'diel. What you are talking about(if I am reading it right...) is just faking your identity. I guess you could call that "acting" or "role-playing", but I think the common opinion is that it is weird. Weird like 30 year olds on AOL pretending they are 13 years old. If your real life bothers you then you are better off being quiet about it.

I guess there are people who want to use FFXI as a chat program or e-dating service(that goes nowhere) to satisfy some specific social interaction they can't capture in real life or want to pretend they want to be a girl without having a sex change. Personally I think this is the shit that creates thieving assholes who "love" each other and other crappy drama.

[Akira]

Lordwafik: Yea, that's what I'm talking about


And the other post.. Yea, well if you use that sense, I can understand that's a little creepy, but I just meant in general like Lordwafik mentioned, none of that strange age play stuff.. that's just very very very disturbing. lol

[Kohan]

If you want to roleplay as a person in Vana'diel, join a linkshell that serves that purpose. There should be one on your server, but if there isn't, try to find another server that has one. If their community is strong (you may want to test this via their forums, and if they don't have any, it's probably weak), it might be worth switching for you.

If you want to pretend you're someone you're not in real life, then don't try to make close friendships with anyone in game. At all. You're going to hurt their feelings, and practically eject yourself from the social scene by weirding everyone out. Considering that this game (and any MMORPG) is largely about meeting new people, and that FFXI does not have any "RP Servers," it's not a good idea. If you absolutely insist upon not being sincere with your friends (which would really make them more like "allies"), don't ever divulge fake "secrets" about yourself. Just be nice to them and carry on like a normal, detached person.

The reason there's a "big deal" related to this is simple: you are pretending and the others are not. They're being genuine while you aren't. That's not right and no one likes that. If they're not playing a game along with you, then you shouldn't play around with them.

[Eruantalon]

Common misconception: FFXI is not an MMORPG. it is an MMOG. There is no element of Role playing in this game. Going through quests and missions, you are but a fly on the wall and basically eaves drop on any conversation. There's no sand-boxing otherwise you would screw up space/time in the WotG expansion.

Because there's no emotional or character psyche behind the character, there's no way for the player to "act" or role play that character. The character does not grow as a character, it only grows in levels and in gear.

FFXI is only at its root a very very large chat room where people can play the game together.

If you want to role play, go pick up a pen and paper and get some dice. If you "role play" in FFXI, it'll be taken as lying about yourself and it will hurt your reputation. There may be linkshells where people can role play, but there's probably a chat room for you to role play too.

Sorry to sound snippy, but 2 biggest pet peeves of mine: FFXI is not a role playing game, and there's no such thing as luck in a program that usually bases any random number off a system clock in milliseconds. There is however chance.

[Charismatic]

Common misconception: FFXI is not an MMORPG. it is an MMOG. There is no element of Role playing in this game. Going through quests and missions, you are but a fly on the wall and basically eaves drop on any conversation. There's no sand-boxing otherwise you would screw up space/time in the WotG expansion.

Because there's no emotional or character psyche behind the character, there's no way for the player to "act" or role play that character. The character does not grow as a character, it only grows in levels and in gear.

FFXI is only at its root a very very large chat room where people can play the game together.

If you want to role play, go pick up a pen and paper and get some dice. If you "role play" in FFXI, it'll be taken as lying about yourself and it will hurt your reputation. There may be linkshells where people can role play, but there's probably a chat room for you to role play too.

Sorry to sound snippy, but 2 biggest pet peeves of mine: FFXI is not a role playing game, and there's no such thing as luck in a program that usually bases any random number off a system clock in milliseconds. There is however chance.

No such thing as a role playing video game amirite?

[Thistle]

Common misconception: FFXI is not an MMORPG. it is an MMOG.

Sorry to sound snippy, but 2 biggest pet peeves of mine: FFXI is not a role playing game...

Agreed (sadly) on these two things. I'd love to be able to RP inside FFXI (and it does sometimes happen when I find a like-minded person), but the majority of my RPing happens elsewhere (MU*s, IM) even though I play the "FFXI Thistle" character there.

It'd be wonderful if there were a whole RP server, like on some other MMOs.

[Eruantalon]

I would have to say that if a character has a personality and one that is dynamic in allowing you to act out that personality, then it's role playing. This would probably put Black and White as a role playing game as the character changes depending on how you act (which is actually backwards). Morrowind and Oblivion come close only because of the sand-box feature, but the character changing doesn't exactly occur (but I haven't played Oblivion yet. FFXI kinda gets in the way)

Playing a sand-box version of FFXI with Oblivion like qualities would be very fun. But as far as role playing goes, nothing beats pen and paper. No claim botting there. Just loaded dice v.v

[BRP]

If you are going to make RPG games are not RPGs argument... well, MMORPG is sure as hell not the best place to start it. While I personally would love the genre to be renamed, as long as Final Fantasy or The Witcher are called RPGs, FFXI and other MMOs are MMORPGs.

[Linktri]

RPing while playing an MMORPG is fucking stupid.

I was in West Ronfaure a few years ago and saw a new Warrior at like level 3 or 4 approach an Orc. It went something like this:

Numbnuts>> Halt Orc! I have no wish to fight you! Return from whence you came!
Orc>> ... (wanders around aimlessly)
Numbnuts>> Thank you for letting me pass in peace, beastman.
Orc>> ... (turns around and aggros)
Numbnuts>> Fie vile beast!
*engages*
Numbnuts is defeated by the Orcish Grappler.

I walked away and let him HP. Some lessons are best learned the hard way. Orcs don't RP.

[Pikarya]

srs LOL

[_chuchu]

Fucking lol'ed

[Kipling]

LMAO.

[Faithe]

RPing while playing an MMORPG is fucking stupid.

I was in West Ronfaure a few years ago and saw a new Warrior at like level 3 or 4 approach an Orc. It went something like this:

Numbnuts>> Halt Orc! I have no wish to fight you! Return from whence you came!
Orc>> ... (wanders around aimlessly)
Numbnuts>> Thank you for letting me pass in peace, beastman.
Orc>> ... (turns around and aggros)
Numbnuts>> Fie vile beast!
*engages*
Numbnuts is defeated by the Orcish Grappler.

I walked away and let him HP. Some lessons are best learned the hard way. Orcs don't RP.

LOL

The Orc probably was role playing, heck, would a real orc let a weakling of a warrior pass?

Damn no, he'll probably shred the little bastard apart.

[Kaludneisucks]

as an adult < harhar> male who plays a female char, i tend to adopt different personality traits in my interactions with her, but i dont make up BS stories about my life, i just act like a bitch. that is not something id consider RPng, but more like a form of soft projecting. RPing without a REAL GM is fail.

[Thistle]

RPing while playing an MMORPG is fucking stupid.

If that's your opinion on it, then I'd highly suggest that you not do it.

RPing with an NPC, and an aggro one at that, is stupid. RPing with other PCs who want to RP as well? Not stupid.

[orinthia]

Most GMs do a tiny bit of RP whenever they greet you, especially if you're some kind of knight. It's just too bad your character is so detached from everything in the game... like san d'orians don't snub you for not being elvaan, random other npcs don't treat taru like they're children or 'cute as a button,' or your current job not having any impact almost anywhere.

It'd be interesting to have to be certain jobs to either get certain quests or interact with certain npcs to where if you grouped with them or had them talk first then you could get something done. The only place like that is the loltavern in upper jeuno as well as a couple areas where your rank matters, but it doesn't change any contents based on it.

It was cute when they implemented the npc fellow quest and actually gave the npc a little personality to what they say from slightly creepy to funny or silly. It's too bad that has no baring on the questline itself... just a few slightly different dialogs here or there but that's it, nothing else changes.

Pretty much to make it to where you mattered a whole lot more you'd have to have a separate version of all npcs dialogs to take in race, job, and possibly a set personality/alignment trait when you started the game (options like mature, childish, lawful, shifty-eyed, playful, etc). Then certain npcs might not talk to you since you're childish or lawful, in which case you'd have to pt with a shifty-eyed or mature person to get through to the npc. Would add a little more community and a big group-friendship element... or it'd be reduced to spamming all areas with shouts asking for people with different personality/alignment traits...

Yeah, that was easy to avoid. ; ;

Guess it's back to being a fly on the wall...

For the person who asked a little on oblivion, that game takes into account how lawful or unlawful you are. You have a little number that marks your fame and infamy. You do more quests to help the guard (close oblivion gates) or help lawful citizens then your fame rises. With very high fame it's actually easy to get away with minor crimes and nearly all npcs will have a high opinion of you without having to bribe them. You commit murders, help the thieves' or dark brotherhood guilds, or steal from homes and get caught, your infamy rises.
Having a high infamy pisses off the guards and makes random law abiding npcs either not talk to you or require quite heavy bribes to even begin to say anything. You can be locked out of certain quests this way I think. You also won't be able to pray in a temple or shrine of the nine to remove status ailments or diseases and receive long duration buffs. You'll have to find a temple on the evil side for that kind of blessing heh or just cast the spells yourself (vendors might not sell to you though... I haven't played an extremely infamous character through oblivion yet).