Demon's Souls

[Ragnell]

Yea this game rapes me and I like it, feels good man

[Doombear]

Null if you apologize one more GD time =P

Happy to try any time. I really don't get what the problem could have been. I was clearly summonable... I was summoned at least three times and each time i was hoping it was you XD. I killed the Spider Boss 3 times in 10 minutes.

The last time, when I set my soul sign down by Ed the Blacksmith I was sure it was you... why would anyone else nab a blue soul sign down there. But nope, was some random Brushwood guy. Turns out I think he summoned me because he got invaded. We teamed up on this poor Black Phantom... he kept running and healing but once we timed it right I knocked him down with Bone Crusher and Brushwood Dude finished him off.

Hmm, I wonder what kind of NAT you have Null. When you do a connection test next time, let me know what it says your NAT type is. Only thing i could find on the wiki regarding not being able to join was:

Why can i not see the sign that my friend leaves using blueeye stone?

This will be because you are too many levels apart from each other (max 20 I think), or that the selection the game gives you doesn't contain your friends, try loading the game up straight away to "refresh" the signs

I don't even know what that means. I did read elsewhere though that you have to be within 10 levels until level 100... then it is 25 levels.

[Cyn]

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Fucking terrible multiplayer is fucking terrible.

[Minions]

Null if you apologize one more GD time =P

Happy to try any time. I really don't get what the problem could have been. I was clearly summonable... I was summoned at least three times and each time i was hoping it was you XD. I killed the Spider Boss 3 times in 10 minutes.

The last time, when I set my soul sign down by Ed the Blacksmith I was sure it was you... why would anyone else nab a blue soul sign down there. But nope, was some random Brushwood guy. Turns out I think he summoned me because he got invaded. We teamed up on this poor Black Phantom... he kept running and healing but once we timed it right I knocked him down with Bone Crusher and Brushwood Dude finished him off.

Hmm, I wonder what kind of NAT you have Null. When you do a connection test next time, let me know what it says your NAT type is. Only thing i could find on the wiki regarding not being able to join was:

I don't even know what that means. I did read elsewhere though that you have to be within 10 levels until level 100... then it is 25 levels.

You also have to be alive, not in soul form to see the blue messages. Done the last boss in 5 like 6 times.... the womans still gone v_v, wonder if something killed her or something.

Done blue phantom like 10 times now, are we sure it gives WT? Some sources i've read are saying it does CT not WT.

[Oravis]

You also have to be alive, not in soul form to see the blue messages. Done the last boss in 5 like 6 times.... the womans still gone v_v, wonder if something killed her or something.

Done blue phantom like 10 times now, are we sure it gives WT? Some sources i've read are saying it does CT not WT.

It doesn't affect wt last I checked. Since you're not even doing it in your own world. It just affects ct.

[BadKarma]

1.

Fucking terrible multiplayer is fucking terrible.

2.

Old meme is olde

[Celeras]

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST @ Black Phantom Rydell(NG+). Just go ahead and 1 shot me with warding through a block, in those fucking hallways that makes dodging a nightmare. Graverobbers and 200 arrows it is!

[xopher]

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Fucking terrible multiplayer is fucking terrible.

no, you're dumb

[Eratosthenes]

Na, I was in body, he was in soul. It was weird, we tried 2-2 and 2-1 and I never saw a blue mark. But the second I entered 4-2 there were blue marks all over the place. I felt like there was a connection error on my side or something.

You can only summon in areas you haven't beaten. Once you kill the boss, no more summoning.

[Cyn]

no, you're dumb

OMG NO U!!!

God forbid someone have a problem with a multiplayer system that has no lobby or speech support and requires both parties to meet certain conditions and be in the exact same location within the game world to maybe work.

All in all though the game is impressing me less and less the farther I get. It's starting to feel as though they got halfway through developing it and decided to slap a boss on it and tweak the difficulty way up with gimmicks to appeal to the "hardcore gamers".

[Arnwulf]

Explain a gimmick used in this game to enhance the difficulty.

[Cephius]

If anything, this game gets easier as you go along with strong weapons and the ability to farm souls like crazy to up your stats. I don't see how New Game+ is a gimmick (if that is what you were referring to) since its about the 2000th game to have that feature.

[Cyn]

Explain a gimmick used in this game to enhance the difficulty.

Soul form, no selling, no bank for storing souls (money, not bosses), etc.

And I'm not really bothered by it being hard, I just feel like the difficulty is masking the fact that this game is pretty short overall.

Edit: By soul form, I specifically mean the 50% HP and the fact that you have to give up a ring slot to get some of it back.

[Arnwulf]

So you probably REALLY hated Shadows of the Colossus?

[Doombear]

Eh... I don't feel that the game has glossed over some gimmicks to increase the difficulty or length. I just fckin love the game.

GDI THANK YOU for clearing up the summoning rules! I knew I was forgetting something. Well Null not sure which bosses you have left but let's figure that out? I just beat 5-3 last night so no more bosses for me just NG+ time. Think you will be around tonight? I am now level 100 so I won't level until we trade.

[Oravis]

Well this was disappointing. I decided to try to get summoned as the 3-3 boss for someone for the monk headwrappings for the hell of it. When I finally do I was excited to beat someone down but nooo..they die before they even get all the way up the stairs.

[Minions]

Ok, theres something very weird going on with the garland, friend saw the dark phantom spawn, then said he would kill it in the morning. Logs out in the area where the phantom was, logs in this morning and no phantom spawns. Whats going on with this fight? Seems like something is fucking up the WT in zone 5, even if you don't do anything.

[Kwijiboe]

I'm starting to think that pure WT fades over time or is affected very slightly by your actions in other worlds. Or, worse yet, that dying in soul form lowers WT, but only very slightly.

[Doombear]

I had no issues with 5-1/5-2. But it was strange.

In 5-1 I got to the place where the ladder is IF you have WT. The ladder was there, though i thought nothing of until i read that it was only there because of World Tendency.

So then I did 5-2 a bit later, I think i did 1-3 and 1-4 in between. I know i didn't have WT when I got to 5-2, because Selen wasn't there. Oh btw in 5-2 I must have died stupid deaths (all in soul form) at least 5 times. I finished 5-2 went back to the Nexus and promptly disposed of my body. Went back to 5-2 spoke with Selen and then I did 5-3. I killed Garl, spoke to the Maiden who offed herself, then went back to the Nexus. Went BACK in to 5-3 and standing there was the Black Phantom Garl and had no issues with the kill or drop.

When i look at my World Tendency screen, my 5-x area is just a bit whiter than the others, and other than Bolarian where killing Miralda reset my White to Neutral... i see no reason that the others would be less White than 5. And oddly, level 4 has never been pure White for me, so no Makoto.

[Oravis]

When it comes to WT for me every area reacts differently. 4 will decrease from pure white if I log off but the others usually won't. All of them will go to neutral if they are on pure black after a log off or 2. Stonefang always stays on pure white. I even died once in human form and it stayed that way. I assumed it may have been upgrading weapons with the blacksmith that was affecting it because I can't see another reason for it staying on pure white.

I'm always killing BPs in 1 so that always stays pure white because of that. I haven't noticed much in latria though.