NHL Season 08-09

[Brill Weave]

I may have to link the thread over here. This guy is a fucking idiot. He's claiming that if the Pens lose and Carolina and Buffalo win, the Penguins will be WAY out of the playoff picture. With 18 games left. And the Penguins only 1 point behind them in the standings. Yeah. It is entertaining though. I've already got the guy borderline freaking out. I want to push him over the edge now.

[Brill Weave]

Here it is. I'll link it and summarize it as well.

Douchebag: The Pens would be smart to go for that trade. They have to rebuild anyways-- Since they won't even make the playoffs this year.

Awesome Brill: Staal won't be traded. The Penguins are too in love with what he could become. He's a young, still developing power forward. It took Ryan Malone how long until he finally developed into a reliable offensive threat. People seem to forget that Staal is only twenty years old. He's arguably the most durable player the Pens have and he's a fantastic defensive forward. If his scoring touch catches up with his defensive side he will be around for a very long time.

If I were a betting man, I would bet that by the end of his career Staal will be compared to players like Rod Brind'Amour and Jere Lehtinen. Wow, the Pens have to rebuild? Do you even watch hockey?

Douchebag: @ david w - They're 1 loss away from droping to 11th in the Conference. That puts them WAY out of the playoffs. Yes, they need to rebuild. The Pens lost their key players on the off season. Yes, they need to rebuild. Malkin clearly isn't a playoff player at this point in his career. Cindy is too distracted with trying to punch players clockweights from behind...

And yes, I watch and play ice hockey. I don't just "follow" one team. Clearly you are a Pens fan, which is fine. But watching only a single team, limits your knowledge. You were probably one of the people who thought that the Pens stood a chance at beating Detroit last season too. They didn't have it last year. If they'd have kept the true core and grit that they had and re-tooled just a little bit, the Pens would have been a powerhouse. Now their just average.

Awesome Brill: Well first off your math is way off. The Penguins are currently one point ahead of both the Sabres and Carolina. If they would lose and both teams would win, the Pens would drop to tenth. Since you're pointing out numbers did you also fail to notice there is only a seven point difference between tenth place and fourth place? I am a Pens fan, but I'm also a hockey fan in general. I watch any game that is on tv. For someone who says they watch and play hockey, you may want to follow it a bit more closely.

Wow, you're playing the clairvoyance card about the finals? Impressive. Just because I am a fan of the Penguins, doesn't mean I don't follow other teams. Before replying next you may want to stop and actually think out your posts since you're making a ton of comments based on nothing but your own assumptions. Think before you post kiddies it makes you look like less of an ass.

Awesome Brill Follow Up: I'm also interested in how exactly the Penguins would have kept their "grit" from last season considering their salary cap issues and the amount of money several players wanted. Since we're tossing out suppositions now, I suppose you were one of the people who thought that the Penguins should overpay for for Malone, Roberts, and Hall? Hossa made his own choice to get his best chance for the cup, I can't argue with that as much as I would have loved him to stay because Detroit DOES give him the best chance.

So by all means explain to me how keeping their true core together by overpaying three players would have been a wise decision. For such a hockey pundit you seem to lack the basic knowledge of the salary cap. Do you remember a few years after Tampa Bay won the cup, their salary cap woes were so bad that Lecavalier and St. Louis were pretty much ALL they had?
I like your logic though, load up for one run then potentially handicap your team for years to come. Good thinking.

Douchebag: @ david: Let me explain something to you about wins/losses since its obvious you are a jackass.
A win gives a team TWO (2) points. A loss gives a team ZERO (0) points.
Currently the Pens are in 8th place. The Pens have 70 points.
The Sabres and the Hurricanes are in the number nine and ten positions respectively with 69 points each. Now use your fingers or toes to count. Seventy take away sixty-nine equals one. Good job Davey. You can have your milk and cookie now.

The Pens are only 1 point ahead of two teams who are not currently in a playoff position.
If the Pens lose a game, and Buffalo and CAR win a game... The Pens drop in the standings. Now here comes the way off math that I have, 69 points PLUS 2 points for a win equals 71 points. Now the Pens are out of a playoff position. Moron.

Awesome Brill: Ok well explain this to me then. First off you're claiming they would be in the eleven spot. Which is wrong. Then on top of that you're claiming that they would be way out of the playoff picture, by one point. Now explain how one point is way out of the playoff picture? Feel free to take your time, I know this conversation is difficult for you.

Don't get pissy because you failed to think your post through and I deconstructed it from the start. Both of your comments in your post, were wrong. I merely pointed out that YOUR comments in YOUR post were wrong. Which they are. Plain and simple. And no amount of hurling sarcastic ineffectual rebuttals is going to make YOUR post correct. Keep moving tiger, you're out of your league here.

Feel free to try again once you've taken your foot out of your mouth.

He hasn't responded anymore. I think I scared him off.

[Brill Weave]

Hmm I can't find anything to substantiate this but someone on yahoosports is claiming the Penguins waived Miroslav Satan in a salary dump. If anyone sees this can they link it here? I'm curious if it's true or not. If that is true, then it looks like the Pens might be gearing up for a run at someone. But the question is who?

[Arnwulf]

Players put on waivers today:

Jon Sim (NYI), Miroslav Satan (PIT), Brendan Morrison (ANA), Craig Adams (CHI), Gary Roberts (TB), Martin Gerber (OTT), Aaron Voros (NYR), Erik Reitz (NYR), Brendan Bell (OTT), Peter Olvecky (MIN) and Eric Perrin (ATL).

Source: http://www.thefourthperiod.com/colum.../pagnotta.html

[Thoronas]

WTF? Man thats a lot of under performing players with semi-decent contracts. Are teams making space for trades or something? Thats crazy.

[Ratatapa]

contrary to what Fourthperiod.com says

Ryan smyth will not be traded tomorrow.

#2 This year does not seem as exciting as last year in term of last time trades, unless something unexpected happens

[Ratatapa]

OH AND Every back to NYR bwahaha

[Ivaden]

Now, most of you should know that I've only been following hockey since last year. I was under the assumption that players put on waivers were scratched from the line-up until they got picked up or passed up? If that's right, then why did Satan play tonight? Was he passed up that quickly? Or is my assumption just wrong?

Anyway, my man-love for Kunitz is quickly growing.

[Oxyminus]

Avery is back!

I was not a fan of this move, but now that it's done might as well take some positive in it. Tortorella will keep him in line. I've never had an issue with Avery the player, just Avery the guy when he's off the ice. Should provide a good spark. Curious to see whose spot he takes in the lineup. Better be Dawes

Naslund-Gomez-Zherdev
Dubinsky-Drury-Prucha
Callahan-Korpikoski-Avery
Sjostrom-Betts-Orr

Truth is, the new style the Rangers have been playing in should be perfect for Avery. I put him in the slot I did because I think Prucha is more of a scoring talent/threat, but the 3rd line has probably been the best at taking to this new aggressive style, think he'd do a lot of good there.

[melbufrauma]

dont blow this stars! Turco needs to be spot on tonight

[Ratatapa]

At Montreal TV they were showing a special remember Mario lemieux Video. And when i saw Lemieux/jagr old jersey i remarked how much i loved the old penguins jersey

http://nhl.imageg.net/graphics/produ...p1905575dt.jpg

noy Much different but i still like it

[Sepukku]

As if our powder blue Pens jerseys weren't ugly enough, they now have Green Pens Jerseys/Shirts/Hoodies for Saint Patricks day... If I see someone at the games in a couple weeks wearing one, I'm rubbing their face in spilt condiments on the arena floor.

[Oxyminus]

I think a lot of teams are doing the green st. patty's day thing. Every time I see a black, or red (looks like a bad knockoff of the old 3rd jersey for the Avalanche with the name written diagonally across like the Rangers) Rangers jersey at a game I want to rage. That and bad personalized jerseys. Either the cheesy kind that look dumb, or jerseys that are clearly fake and look bad.

[melbufrauma]

Stars did really good tonight...

[Palin]

Good start to the road trip for the Stars. Maybe a stretch out of the AAC is what they needed.

[Thoronas]

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/.../AB_2_4516.jpg
Great night for Vancouver! I've never seen so much excitement over a player signing for 8 mil over 4 years lol. Then he goes and scores two goals in a great comeback against Minnesota. Burrows ftmfw

[Arnwulf]

Trade deadline day! Wheeeee!

[Brill Weave]

Happy Deadline Day bitches!! And Ivaden when it comes to waivers, the players can still play for their respective teams. Unless another team claims them off, then if that player is on the ice he is supposed to be immediately taken off and not play the rest of the game. At least that's how it used to be, I haven't checked that ruling out in a long time. But since Satan played last night, I'm going to assume it's still the same.

[Arnwulf]

MOST teams, when they place a player on waivers, will opt to scratch them to avoid that exact situation, pulling them off the ice in the middle of the game. The fact that he played last night doesn't make much sense, it basically means that the Pens want to make a big move and are hoping to dump salary the easy way. Teams have until noon today to pick up any of the players on waivers.

[Ratatapa]

first Trade

Antoine Vermette Vs Pascal Leclaire