Show me your gearsets for Mercy Stroke

[Stinky]

I know the mod is STR so I'm hoping to focus on that in my build. I'm picking up my Baterdeau tomorrow and hope to have the actual Mandau within a few weeks. I want to see some of the items people use in their setups, or what is suggested. I have some STR gear from other jobs (Triumph earring, flame rings, etc.) and am looking at my options. Obviously heca pieces are a good idea.

thanks.

[zard1977]

Honestly the gearset for mercy stroke is very straight forward.

Just pump str as much as you can and ignore accuracy since you cannot miss the first hit (main and offhand) anyway.
I'm using full heca, gorget, brutal, triumph, rajas, flame, forager's, warwolf.
Slightly debatable will be heca legs vs enkidu legs. I picked 20atk 4dex over 4str.

For TA-mercy I am using skadi hands over af+1 or heca. Difference is minimal.

[hopefulki]

I use:

Bomb Core (1 hit, etc etc)
Heca Cap
Soil Gorget
Triumph Earring
Brutal Earring
Heca Body +1
Heca Hands +1 (Skadi for TAWS)
Triumph Ring
Rajas Ring
Forager's Mantle
Warwolf Belt
Enkidu's Subligar (no N. Legs ;
Heca Feet +1

Hope thats helps

Possible upgrades are N legs, Heca Cap +1, Cerb Mantle +1 but as the poster above said, STR = win, so heca all the way

[Wizerd]

Several points of attack will outperform a point or two of STR, as one would expect, so don't do something stupid like Mercy Stroke in a Smilodon Mantle +1. I see SAMs do this and I want to strangle them.

[Slott]

At work so I'll just type it:

Mandau/x's / (fire bomblet, but use whatever, bomb core best here)

Heca hat, soil gorget, brutal, waetoto's earring (use triumph if not taru)
heca body, heca gloves, rajas, omicron (swap omicron ring for ulthalam's if in nysul/salvage/assault etc)
Cerb +1 cape, warwolf, heca legs, heca feet.

HQ heca where applicable obviously.

[Croaker]

Several points of attack will outperform a point or two of STR, as one would expect, so don't do something stupid like Mercy Stroke in a Smilodon Mantle +1. I see SAMs do this and I want to strangle them.

I found the smilodon+1 to put out near identical damage to NQ cerb or amemet+1. So in regard to WS there is no reason not to use it for mercy stroke.
The deciding factor for me though is you don't want to wear it for TP, so you still want the cerb or amemet. No point in carrying around an extra back piece.

things I want to parse...
Ifrit bow vs. Bomb core
Endiku sub. vs. Heca sub.
Oily trousers vs. Heca sub.
Justice torque vs. soil gorget

[Wolfknight]

I found the smilodon+1 to put out near identical damage to NQ cerb or amemet+1. So in regard to WS there is no reason not to use it for mercy stroke.
The deciding factor for me though is you don't want to wear it for TP, so you still want the cerb or amemet. No point in carrying around an extra back piece.

things I want to parse...
Ifrit bow vs. Bomb core
Endiku sub. vs. Heca sub.
Oily trousers vs. Heca sub.
Justice torque vs. soil gorget

I don't know about rest and not thf, but based on every other ws I've seen I will say gorget always beats out torque for damage.

[Mythe_Seraph]

things I want to parse...
Ifrit bow vs. Bomb core
Endiku sub. vs. Heca sub.
Oily trousers vs. Heca sub.
Justice torque vs. soil gorget

Ifrit bow vs. Bomb core - Situational i'd say, though I wouldn't merit without bomb core's acc.

Endiku sub. bs. Heca sub. - I would go w/ heca+1 myself, wouldn't even consider Endiku.

Oily trousers vs. Heca sub - See above

Justice vs. Soil Gorget - Neither, Kubira Beads.

[Ruiner]

Would Alky's be good for non-SA/TA Mercy Stroke, or would Heca (+1) still be better?

[Slott]

You'd be an idiot to use that in the first place.

[Lordwafik]

http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=31670 is my mercy stroke gearset.

Things I could do to upgrade it :
Ziska to Bomb Core - Don't have out of laziness / the fact I carry my ziska+bolts 100% of the time I'm on thief, I prefer utility over anything when I'm on thief, on NMs that don't resist I like to Feint > Acid bolt.

Pixie Earring to Triumph Earring - Considering how lacking I am in +DEX on SA mercy , I am just half assing this ear slot and going for that over buying a triumph earring.

Pahluwan Seraweels to Hecatomb Subligar / Enkidu's leggings - I would love to get the abj for this, but I don't do HNM and my LS does Einherjar @ 5AM, so pass. My luck with Enkidu's leggings is the same as my luck with Skadi hands : none at all.

One of my flame rings into a Raja's Ring - I play my RDM almost as much as I play my THF, inventory is precious, and the fact my Tamas is 4 rings in one is a blessing I'll take any day. Maybe in the future I'll change my mind.

I'm satisfied now with my mercy dmg, hell bomb core is dirt cheap, I might pick one up - other than that, it's rare/ex only really.

Amemet Mantle +1 into Forager's mantle - This upgrade is probably the last one I would do, it's so miniscule.

[Rai]

Justice vs. Soil Gorget - Neither, Kubira Beads.

Just wondering, do you actually notice a difference when comparing Kubra vs gorget?

[wop]

I never play THF ever, hence not that bothered about gearing it.

Mandau/Blau
Fire Bomblet
Voyager Sallet (Have N.head, trying to HQ it atm)
Heca Body +1 HQ'd after break in my mog ^^
Heca Mitts +1
Heca Leggings +1
Enkidu Subligar
Love Torque (lazy to farm yovra, as I said, I'm not too bothered about THF)
Warwolf
Cerb Mantle +1
Triumph Ring X2
Waetato Earring
Brutal

Seems to do the job.

[Wizerd]

I found the smilodon+1 to put out near identical damage to NQ cerb or amemet+1.

...That's because you were testing on shit where your attack was already *capped*.

[hopefulki]

So recently I got a Cuchulain's Mantle from the La Vaule BC and I am using it for SA Mercy, still using Forager's for TA Mercy but I've noticed i do get slightly higher #s on SA Mercy w/ Cuchulain's than Forager's, not sure how Cerb +1 vs that would do. Anyone else tried this and have similar results? I will go out and test it but I've been really busy since i got the mantle so no real time for true testing.. maybe this weekend.

[Tsuko_Asura]

I don't know, but I like your signature. :]

[Raen Ryong]

If you are stacking it with SA, then DEX will have approximately the same impact as STR on damage, so using Enkidu Subligar over Hecatomb Subligar would be foolish in that respect... though DEX does nothing to the extra dualwielded hit except add some acc.

If stacking with TA, one AGI will have approximately the same impact as STR also and then AF+1 hands become very attractive, though if you're Dual Wielding it does nothing for that second hit.

STR is the best choice for this WS, but don't ignore other stats for it.

EDIT: Oh, also forgot; Gorget over Justice Torque.

[Falcoo]

Pumping up an old thread than starting new one , have a question on what to use on neck …

I have Love at the moment and reading thro this thread I’m kind of confused on what is better for WS ( Soil Gorget or Kubira Beads )???

Thanks in advance!

[Raen Ryong]

Soil Gorget will add more and more damage the more you pump the mods etc of that first MS hit (only MS hit if not dualwielding), whereas adding str/dex is relatively static. Gorget generally easily wins in this case.

[Archain]

If I can locate the thread, I'll see if I can find a quick link justifying the use of a Soil Gorget over the use of a stat neck in a one handed test.

DEX was a straight increase to SA damage.

STR increased the WSC in steps (according to where your STR fell in when x .6 and truncated with the 0.83 level correction). I know there was a sweet spot between 134-136 STR where evey point raised you a tier. I think this added a potential 9 DMG (1377 @ WSC 65, 1368 @ WSC 64) per tier increase. Add the 25% piercing bonus on top of the 9 if doing pierce weaks. Just remember this operates in steps, so in some cases another point of STR may not move you up a WSC tier.

Soil Gorget does add 0.1 fTP to the fixed fTP of 3.0, making MS a fixed 3.1 fTP when used. I'll try to show you in the thread below where exactly in the math the modifications happen.

Not sure if this link works, I'm posting from work so I can't really check it well, lol.

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/ffxi-...ml#post2112675

Take note that the test was done single handed, without an X's Knife bonus, on an attack capped enemy, and the enemy was pierce weak (+25% DMG). I did this test slightly less than 2 years ago and haven't redone the test to see if anything may have changed.



Using the test I conducted in the thread from earlier, I can probably predict what my potential peak DMG output would be under the same conditions.

Here's the old Soil Gorget peak from the thread above. I can only provide the screenshots for the earlier tests via that thread since I don't own a Kubira Bead Necklace.

1751 Listed by Screenshot for Soil Gorget Peak.


D = 39 [ Mandau ]
fSTR = 12 [ Floor(39/9) + 8 ]
fTP = 3.1 [ Mercy Stroke w/ Gorget]
WSC = 64 [ 130 x .6 x .83 ]
DEX = 111
pDIF = 3 [ Capped at 3 ]

For Sneak Attack with Thief main, the calculation is WD = ( D + fSTR + WSC) * fTP + DEX

So the max WS with Soil Gorget should be:
((39 + 12 + 64) * 3.1 + 111) * 3

1401 * 0.25 (Piercing Bonus) = 350 Bonus DMG
1401 Base DMG + 350 Bonus DMG = 1751 DMG

Using what I know, I'll try to show one for the Kubira Bead Necklace too. The Kubira Bead Necklace is essentially a glorified Spike Necklace. It gives 4 STR, 4 DEX. TAKE NOTE, I'M ONLY USING MATH AND HAVE NOT TESTED THE NECK FOR HIDDEN EFFECTS.

D = 39 [ Mandau ]
fSTR = 12 [ Floor(39/9) + 8 ]
fTP = 3.0 [ Mercy Stroke ]
WSC = 66 [ 134 x .6 x .83 ]
DEX = 114
pDIF = 3 [ Capped at 3 ]

For Sneak Attack with Thief main, the calculation is WD = ( D + fSTR + WSC) * fTP + DEX

So the max WS with Kubira Bead Necklace should be:
((39 + 12 + 66) * 3.0 + 114) * 3

1395 * 0.25 (Piercing Bonus) = 348 Bonus DMG
1395 Base DMG + 348 Bonus DMG = 1743 DMG

The math should allow you to get it fairly gnat's ass.

Chiv Chain Prediction