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  1. #1041
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    Taken from an online guide(not brady..)
    Fast -> Slow

    Barefist > Knife type = Bow type > 1-hand sword/mace = spear = staff >
    2-hand sword and axe

    No armor > cloth > light armor > heavy armor

    No shield > small shield > large shield

    note that each of these factors DO STACK and each individual piece of armor
    also carry individual speed value. For example, wearing 4 piece of heavy
    armor, is slow than 3 piece of heavy armor and 1 piece of cloth. And of
    course the fastest would be barefist, with no armor, and no shield.
    I remember when I was playing imported game I found a chart online that told the exact speed value for each slot. If I can find it i will post it. The body armor slot is the worst, a heavy armor body can almost triple the time it takes to use an action.

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    That's very nice to know. Thanks for that :D

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    Hmm... so I wonder what armor has the best recharge/defense rateing.

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    Sorta found what i was looking for in a Walkthrough on GameFAQs

    Kinda long but if you are interested in delays of gear and weapons here it is for you.
    Spoiler: show
    Speed in terms of Cure Delay, from 1st cast (include chant time), gauge filling,
    and till the next cast is ready:

    Naked 3.89
    Cloth Set (Body, Hands, Legs, Feet) 4.45
    Light Set (Body, Hands, Legs, Feet) 4.89
    Heavy Set (Body, Hands, Legs Feet) 5.89

    From this chart we know that speed from the fastest is: naked>cloth>light>heavy.

    Weapon Delay (Tested using Full Heavy Set, Body, Hands, Legs, Feet):

    Fist (no weapon/sheild) 5.90
    Dagger/Knife 6.30
    Dagger/Knife + Light Shield 6.84
    Dagger/Knife + Heavy Shield 7.37
    One-Hand Sword 6.90
    One-Hand Sword + LIght Shield 7.34
    One-Hand Sword + HEavy Shield 7.86
    One-Hand Axe 6.89
    One-Hand Axe + Light Shield 7.31
    One-Hand Axe + Heavy Shield 7.82
    Two-Hand Sword 7.81
    Two-Hand Katana 7.82
    Two-Hand Axe 7.82
    Spear 6.81
    Spear + Light Shield 7.34
    Spear + Heavy Shield 7.89
    Bow 6.35
    Staff 6.81

    From this chart we know that speed from fastest are:

    Tier 1 (Fastest)
    Dagger/Knife, Bow

    Tier 2 (Fast)
    One-Hand Sword, One-Hand Axe, Spear, Staff, Dagger/Knife+Light Shield

    Tier 3 (Medium/Normal)
    One-Hand Sword/Axe/Spear + Light Shield, Dagger/Knife+Heavy Shield

    Tier 4 (Slow)
    Two-Hand Sword, Two-Hand Katana, Two-Hand Axe, One-Hand Sword/Axe/Spear + Heavy
    Shield

    Now, the more meaty part that you probably want to know the most. Armor parts
    delay in frames and seconds. How does it work? Say the game runs 60 frames per
    seconds. A part that adds .2 seconds is basically adding 1/5 of the time,
    therefore you'd have a 1/5 of increase in frame as well.

    Also note that hands/legs/feet equip of the same category have the exact same
    delay value.

    Equipment - Frame - Seconds
    Naked / 60 / 1 (refrence)
    Cloth Body / +12 / +0.2
    Light body / +24 / +0.4
    Heavy Body / + 48 / + 0.8

    Cloth Set / 90 / 1.5
    Without body / -12 / -0.2
    Without hands / -10 / -.16
    Without legs - same -
    Without feet - same -

    Light Set / 120 / 2.0
    Without body / -24 / -0.4
    Without hands / -15 / -0.25
    Wihtout legs - same -
    Without feet - same -

    Heavy Set / 180 / 3.0
    Without body / - 48 / -0.8
    Without hands / -25 / -0.4
    Without legs - same -
    Without feet - same -

    What you need to know? The highest delay on armor is 3.0 seconds compare to
    naked 1.0 seconds. Just note that unless you wear full heavy, you won't be
    reaching this 3.0 seconds cap. Most of the melee player is most likely going
    to hoover around 2.50<2.75, and most back-line player would probably hoover
    around 2.00-2.50. Getting FULL set of something becomes more difficult as you
    progress, so it's more likely that you'll not be using a full set of something.


    The math guru's will probably enjoy picking at it, I don't know how accurate it is.

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    Anyone know where I can find Levinstone shards outside of buying them for 3kfrom my geo or by killing the Tigris in the desert?

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    Anyone know what they are doing for their second upgrade? I don't know if I want to do Divine Magic, Elemental Magic, or something to enhance my STR and shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydir View Post
    Sorta found what i was looking for in a Walkthrough on GameFAQs

    Kinda long but if you are interested in delays of gear and weapons here it is for you.


    The math guru's will probably enjoy picking at it, I don't know how accurate it is.
    Wow that's pretty awesome, some really good info (if accurate)

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    How many things can you have maxed by the time you hit 50?

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    It's sooo veiny
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    Someone posted the Katana requirements a few pages back but can't remember which, anyone know them off hand? I have Bastard Sword+2 and I should get Binding opened up tonight from SP.

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    I'm doing 2H axe for 2nd path to go along with my 2H sword. More STR/HP up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchDizzle View Post
    Someone posted the Katana requirements a few pages back but can't remember which, anyone know them off hand? I have Bastard Sword+2 and I should get Binding opened up tonight from SP.
    need 10 copper ores and a bastard sword+2 and when do you get the ability to bind? im in albana now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klien View Post
    need 10 copper ores and a bastard sword+2 and when do you get the ability to bind? im in albana now
    Your pretty close to getting it then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klien View Post
    need 10 copper ores and a bastard sword+2 and when do you get the ability to bind? im in albana now
    <3 Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arew View Post
    How many things can you have maxed by the time you hit 50?
    Skill points are capped at 300 so approximately 3

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    Might go Bow, Elemental Magic/Holy Magic. Well, something involving a Bow anyway. Gah, game needs to arrive, I won't be able to play properly till next friday I bet...

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    Btw, found out you can tell your squad mates to use their combos by pressing R3.

    That should help a lot of people here. Browse the in game message boards, its a pretty good source... all games should have in game message boards, wow.

    @Sephir, upgrading Katana? Yea, I gave up on that because of the mats.. going different route, hah.

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    I may have to rethink my char now, I'm not quite sure I want to build this heavy armor I was looking at now. I guess thats why the mats are so easy to get (It was like 5 steel ore and 5 dragon bones /ea piece).

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    Wow, you guys are way ahead of me lol, with my semi-limited playtime, I'm not even through Chapter 1 yet lol.

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    Man I'm pissed I never get into the little things of the game that better m ycharacters lol. I stuck with 1 attack until after I got the White Knight suit lol gonna have to fiddle with this upgrading shenanigans.

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    Haha, Kazen. That's what you get for trying to outdo me!

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