Ok here is the problem.
Have a DVD-R drive (IDE) that worked until last night. I tried to put in a slave DVD-R drive (same company as the original .. serial for the original is ND-3550A and the slave is ND-3520A .. believe they are NEC) .. hooked them up .. set the jumpers on the top to Master ... bottom to slave ... booted up and got nothing out of either. I have since then tried putting both in master and by themselves and got nothing. What could be the problem? I did put in a extra fan at the same time .. but doubt that could be the problem.
Oh and in case it helps .. the HD is SATA and not on the same cable as the 2 DVD drives.
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