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  1. #21
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    When it comes to stuff like direction the thing I hear most is "I'm not sure if it does anything, but it only takes a second of my time so I do it just in case it helps."


    My question is this: What makes anyone think they know what the "correct" way to face is even if it does anything? Is it strong to the crystal? Weak to the crystal? Same as crystal? Strong to the day? Weak to the day? Same as the day? Strong to the moghancement? Weak to the moghancement? Same as moghancement?


    I seriously want to know. If nobody that uses directional synthing can prove it works then how do you even know the direction you are facing is the one giving the bonus? If directional synthing is true you may very well be 'spending a second of your time' to face a direction that has actually been giving you a penalty all this time.

  2. #22
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    i am in agreement with most other people here i usually face the direction because it doesnt take any time at all. i craft on all days and moon phases except i never craft on firesday. its prolly just my head messing with me but i seem to break more often on firesday plus the guild shop is closed so it makes it more of a pain to get some mats (i do WW)

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by barber2006 View Post
    When it comes to stuff like direction the thing I hear most is "I'm not sure if it does anything, but it only takes a second of my time so I do it just in case it helps."


    My question is this: What makes anyone think they know what the "correct" way to face is even if it does anything? Is it strong to the crystal? Weak to the crystal? Same as crystal? Strong to the day? Weak to the day? Same as the day? Strong to the moghancement? Weak to the moghancement? Same as moghancement?


    I seriously want to know. If nobody that uses directional synthing can prove it works then how do you even know the direction you are facing is the one giving the bonus? If directional synthing is true you may very well be 'spending a second of your time' to face a direction that has actually been giving you a penalty all this time.
    Basically, If direction doesn't matter... no harm, no foul. If it does matter, then you're right for the most part. Those who choose a direction to face based on whatever logic they might use, don't really know if the direction they face is "correct" or not or if its hurting their chances or not.

    Someone who always crafts in random directions is no better off then someone who "takes a second" to pick their direction. Either one of them could be hurting their chances IF direction matters.

    But you gotta face some direction, so I'll keep on doing what I've been doing out of habit. I could be right. I could be wrong. It might not matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomiko View Post
    In before "in before the shitstorm".

    I used to (Moon/Day), but don't anymore. I just craft whenever I have enough mats to synth multiple times if I'm making stuff for HQs.

    I still use the direction thing since it only takes a second to turn a certain direction anyways.
    ^ This.

    But I noticed a star every direction corresponding colour//crystal, so I don't think its superstition..
    http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/7...ectionsev8.png

    Not shopped, go and look in an open area.

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    Never noticed that before. Is it in Rulude only or in any night sky?

    But as far as facing a direction, yea I do that, because like Lexa said. If I'm crafting I might as well, doesnt take but a fraction of a second longer to face the "Right" way.

    as far as crafting on a certain day/moonphase.. pass! I'm too impatient

  6. #26
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    Any night sky, theres just one coloured for each direction so its not random I'm sure.

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    There's a Taru NPC somewhere in Windurst I think that talks about the constellations, and he'll show you a map of the night sky.

    The original Crafting Compass by Duuuuuuuuuuuude was based on the belief that specific stars according to the night sky and this Taru elementally charged cardinal directions. Facing towards the star that matches your crystal strengthens your crystal, and facing the star that is opposite your crystal encourages breaks (and HQs for some reason).

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acturus View Post
    There's a Taru NPC somewhere in Windurst I think that talks about the constellations, and he'll show you a map of the night sky.
    Can't remember the exact NPC, but if I remember correctly, he's on top of the Opistery in North Windurst Waters (by the telescopes).

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    The stars are there, it is up to the individual to believe whether there is an effect.
    Even if there is no effect on HQs, I feel I get markedly more breaks during skillup when facing the direction my synth crystal is weak on. But hey, that is what I feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeru View Post
    ^ This.

    But I noticed a star every direction corresponding colour//crystal, so I don't think its superstition..
    Except that's where the superstition started.

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    Moon phase affects fishing, to mimic RL fishing, but it's never been proven outside of fishing really to have an effect.

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    as mentioned earlier.....even if it plays a role (doubtful) I'm still waiting to hear how people know what the 'correct' direction is other than just straight up guessing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acturus View Post
    There's a Taru NPC somewhere in Windurst I think that talks about the constellations, and he'll show you a map of the night sky.
    This:
    http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...tellar_map.png

    If convenient, I would craft on the highest tier element strong to my crystal, Lightsday or Darksday...

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ghtsdayHQ1.png

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ghtsdayHQ2.png

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ghtsdayHQ3.png

    I do, however, craft whenever I get materials and time to do so...
    I usually save up a stack or two like most people, and just bust em out.

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    The correct direction is to a gun to shoot yourself for even considering this a viable theory.

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    And who are you to decide whether SE had or had not added a link between crafting and the moon?

    The simple fact is no one can confirm either because of the sheer number of samples required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tymora View Post
    And who are you to decide whether SE had or had not added a link between crafting and the moon?

    The simple fact is no one can confirm either because of the sheer number of samples required.
    First, go to the sticky posted in crafting, second craft for more than 5 minutes. The reason no one can confirm is because for every wackjob who says they faced a direction at a certain moonphase we have 2-3 other people who didn't do a goddam thing and ended up with more T0's despite the fact. Where is Aurik to cockslap people when you need him.

  17. #37
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    what day, moon phase, & which direction, I leave up to the person getting an item craft from me.
    About the only thing I refuse to do is craft while weather is up, especially like A.U. whitegate's wind weather destroying so many of my synths. Might be superstition there, but that's me and my experience.

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    I think one thing can be said for sure: if indeed there is an effect, then it's only a very small, hardly noticeable one. Results of tests are contradictory, as well...

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    If you think about it logically, discarding an idea which is somewhat 'un-proovable' is just as stupid as saying it's true...so it's absolutely moronic to disregard someones' theory on moon phases.

    When i started high end CC i used to craft on New Moon Windsday and went 1/11 on Mahatma Hpl (omgrite?). After which i listened to some of BG's crafters who completely dismissed the idea of Moon phases and began synthing randomly. I'll tell you i've gone 0/120 on several T0's overall since then. You can read whatever you want from this, no-one's wrong because no-one is right here, from my experiences i might start waiting untill new moon again...why not?

    It CANNOT hurt to synth when YOU want to, listening to a handful of crafters bitching because they've gone 0/12873980 on New/Full/whogivesafuck Moon has no relation to you. Synth what you like, where you like, when you like - if people want to call you out for synthing when you feel comfortable, screw them. It's that simple.

    ViVi- /onslaughtinc.

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    I try to do darksday for HQ (personal experience), direction seems to have more of an effect on skillup, and the moon is whatever isn't waxing.

    Waxing is evil. For everything. In fact, if it is waxing moon right now, go to bed, get some sleep. Nothing you do will come to produce anything.

    Hehe.

    Edit: That said, several of my T1 hq (and all of my T0) have come from me crafting something that I didn't want to hq (like say a guild test item, luckily one that was worth some gil) or didn't want to use for the intended purpose because I HQ'd it (Rasetsu Jinpachi +1 when making a single Jinpachi for guild points)

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