Mysteries of the Mighty Barbarians.

**Rhyis.** · 2012-03-20 13:49

Yeah I stayed away from all that shit. The concept of having a bot play a video game for me confuses me to no end.

**Lucavi** · 2012-03-20 13:55

Originally Posted by Dantrag

Agreed, I actually stopped playing for the most part before hacking became prevalent. I enjoyed it for just playing.

This. I had one single player hack so I could try out whatever gear I wanted, but it was seriously boring, and I used it for about a week. Never hacked or duped online, and I quit right around the time all of the botters and scammers started running all the website links on every server that wasn't private.

I suppose that's why I had such good experiences with other players, especially post 1.10. If someone smelled a bot or an incoming PKer, they'd tell everyone else and we'd all jump to a private server and keep fighting. Those were good times.

**Enkidu** · 2012-03-20 16:48

Originally Posted by aurik

Game was a lot more fun when you didn't have bots, didn't trade for dupes, didn't run maphack/chickenhack/whatever. If you were going to cheat, why play at all?

Maybe for a year, but honestly the grind to 99 is just too mind numbing... I played legit to my first SC 99 and maybe 80ish HC, at which point I had pretty much standard gear. Then I wanted the rarer stuff (expensive rares, perfect uniques, perfect rune words, etc...) and honestly to get a complete character legit you'd have to play 40 hours a week. Instead of doing that, I used jsp. I don't think it took anything away from the game, I mean I knew the game inside and out by that point anyways.

Let's be honest here, nobody really played closed bnet at a high level completely legit. If you were playing in 1.09 era and traded for SoJ's - mostly dupes. If you were playing in 1.10 onward and traded for high runes - mostly dupes. And if a high rune wasn't a dupe it most likely came from a bot, just the way things were.

**Syntex** · 2012-03-20 18:34

Originally Posted by aurik

Wow, so salty.

I rarely ever partied with people I didn't know anyway. I did get PKed in cows once, yay for trigger hack I guess.

They're not adding non-mutual pvp in d3. Thank goodness, because it was only ever used for griefing.

What does said hack do?

I ask because you can't enter through the cow portal while flagged for pvp so I'm guessing it was a trapasin or a sorc?

EDIT: Also relevant...

Barbarian set 13 & 14

Demon Hunter set 15

Monk set 10

Witch Doctor set 16

Wizard set 13

Those are my favorites^

**aurik** · 2012-03-20 19:16

Trigger hack created a TP, used it, and hostiled everyone as a single motion. Projectiles that were in-flight would then target and hit the people you just hostiled (particularly Guided Arrows with 100% pierce)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJfHuhpAlyw <-- example of trigger hack / tppk in action!

This is why you really couldn't play in public games safely. Especially not without the godly hacked/cheated items that pushed life globes north of 4k (back in my day we advised 1k+ in Hell, 1.5k+ for melee characters lol)

Originally Posted by Enkidu

Let's be honest here, nobody really played closed bnet at a high level completely legit. If you were playing in 1.09 era and traded for SoJ's - mostly dupes. If you were playing in 1.10 onward and traded for high runes - mostly dupes. And if a high rune wasn't a dupe it most likely came from a bot, just the way things were.

I played closed bnet at high level completely legit, so speak for yourself. Never had an enigma or BotD or any of those runewords that were guaranteed to be made with duped runes; none of that shit was really necessary to be successful at the game.

Did eventually find every rune except 2 or 3 throughout my extensive playtime, but usually I just gave them away if I didn't have an immediate use for them.

**Syntex** · 2012-03-20 20:00

Originally Posted by aurik

Trigger hack created a TP, used it, and hostiled everyone as a single motion. Projectiles that were in-flight would then target and hit the people you just hostiled (particularly Guided Arrows with 100% pierce)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJfHuhpAlyw <-- example of trigger hack / tppk in action!

This is why you really couldn't play in public games safely. Especially not without the godly hacked/cheated items that pushed life globes north of 4k (back in my day we advised 1k+ in Hell, 1.5k+ for melee characters lol)

I played closed bnet at high level completely legit, so speak for yourself. Never had an enigma or BotD or any of those runewords that were guaranteed to be made with duped runes; none of that shit was really necessary to be successful at the game.

Did eventually find every rune except 2 or 3 throughout my extensive playtime, but usually I just gave them away if I didn't have an immediate use for them.

That's pretty shitty.

Anywho does anyone here happen to have a beta I can rent from them for a while? I wanna try the new things out and have yet to win an invite from blizz yet.

**Enkidu** · 2012-03-21 11:55

Originally Posted by aurik

I played closed bnet at high level completely legit, so speak for yourself. Never had an enigma or BotD or any of those runewords that were guaranteed to be made with duped runes; none of that shit was really necessary to be successful at the game.

Did eventually find every rune except 2 or 3 throughout my extensive playtime, but usually I just gave them away if I didn't have an immediate use for them.

Well I guess "at a high level" is pretty subjective here... You can make *some* builds decent without high rune runewords, but you'll never beat a properly played character that has said items.

Anyways I only used bots because I wanted to try every job maxed out with multiple builds. If you take just 3 builds from each class that's 21 jobs to 95+ for finished builds - which is absolutely crazy. I don't feel like botting took away from the game, rather it allowed me to play every aspect of the game without wasting my time grinding. Grinding is not fun.

I was able to build some fun stuff, full griswolds paladin was probably my favorite and it took forever to put that set together, even with botting. Anyways I never duped or even sought out duped gear, it's just that when you traded for extremely rare items there was always a good chance it was a dupe.

**Ragnus** · 2012-03-21 12:41

I played a bit of D2 but never got into it online. I was thinking about getting this game but what the hell did I just watch in Aurik's video?

**Slott** · 2012-03-21 12:54

Guy casted a bunch of spells that linger around, used a hack or something which hostiles everyone, creates a town portal and walks through it. You then hope that your spells that lingered around kill the other players down there...I think

**Lunato** · 2012-03-21 14:57

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**Wulfgang** · 2012-03-21 16:26

This thread is making me want to play D2 again...

**altwight** · 2012-03-21 16:56

My buddy and I have been doing this on D2.

We make the char we're going to play with and then we use some sort of multi instance and bring 3 mules in each to have a 8 player game. Then we just play like normal.

We're around 61 atm he died earlier this week so we start new chars everytime one of us dies and we do builds that complement each other. Working really nice.

**arus2001** · 2012-03-21 17:59

On bnet or direct connection?

**Syntex** · 2012-03-21 18:06

Originally Posted by Wulfgang

This thread is making me want to play D2 again...

Then play :D

**altwight** · 2012-03-21 18:06

Originally Posted by arus2001

On bnet or direct connection?

On battle net. Private games with 6 mules.

**Syntex** · 2012-03-21 18:09

New interesting news..

I like said changes :D

**aurik** · 2012-03-21 21:07

diablo.incgamers.com had the news a few days ago

**arus2001** · 2012-03-21 21:48

Originally Posted by altwight

On battle net. Private games with 6 mules.

If I recall, one cd key can be logged in at a time, or is that worked around by whatever method you're using? Wouldn't mind it if only for making muling a safer/quicker process, but only have the one game copy, so...

**Dakin** · 2012-03-22 00:17

Originally Posted by aurik

diablo.incgamers.com had the news a few days ago

On 3/19 they posted datamined info about the system, and a vague blue post from Bashiok confirming said system. Yesterday, 3/21, they of course posted an official announcement detailing the basics of Nephalem Valor. Quit being such an idiot, it is in fact interesting news. Cute emoticon though

**aurik** · 2012-03-22 01:08

Just sayin, that's the best place to get your d3 info...days ahead on virtually every story. No need to be so mad.

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