Mysteries of the Mighty Barbarians.

**Arkanna** · 2012-05-23 11:26

I love me some Nephalem Valor. Got it up to 5 charges and Hell Diablo dropped me 5 each blues and rares. None of it was usable really but hell if there's not a better chance of getting usable stuff out of 10 drops over the normal 2-3.

*edit* Also, lol @ how bad Inferno really is. One step into the church and I got fucking wrecked by a pack of bats that had waller, mortar, fast, and extra HP. No room to move/kite + nasty mods like that = leave the game, lol.

**Akiyama** · 2012-05-23 11:26

Nephalem Valor? >.>

**Arkanna** · 2012-05-23 11:29

It's a buff you start getting at level 60. Everytime you kill a champion pack or elite pack (super-uniques don't work) you get one level of the buff. Each level forces more/better drops from the next big boss you fight. I'm not sure if it works on bosses like SK or Mahgda, but it definitely works on act bosses. Also, it caps at level 5, has a duration of up to 30 minutes (killing another champ/elite pack resets the timer to 30 minutes), and wears if you change your skill setup.

**Silenka** · 2012-05-23 11:43

What exactly did they do to monk? D:

**Darkmagi** · 2012-05-23 11:54

So... I'm somewhat at a loss on how to play demon hunter now that smoke screen has been patched, any ideas?

**samalis** · 2012-05-23 12:10

http://www.diablofans.com/blizz-trac...dated-5-23-12/

Patch notes for people asking a page back.

**Necronus** · 2012-05-23 12:10

Originally Posted by Silenka

What exactly did they do to monk? D:

They nerfed the healing + shield mantra into oblivion while they come up with a replacement. Seems monks were able to spam this a speed faster than the 2 second duration, thus were able to stay alive in inferno.

Basically they nerfed any ability that lets you toe to toe with an Inferno mob ... Wiz Shield, DH Smokescreen, and Monk Mantra. Smokescreen is the only one that still seems to be usable post nerf.

**Dantrag** · 2012-05-23 12:15

Energy Armor

Skill Rune - Force Armor
Amount of damage absorbed from a single attack will now cap at 100% of a player’s maximum Life

Translation? So it'll only absorb 100% of your life? So if you have 14k it'll only absorb 14k? So if you get hit for 28k you still die?

**Necronus** · 2012-05-23 12:17

Originally Posted by Dantrag

Translation? So it'll only absorb 100% of your life? So if you have 14k it'll only absorb 14k? So if you get hit for 28k you still die?

So yeah, if when calculating the 35% of health you're supposed to take, if the remaining prevented damage is > max life, you die anyway. So now you need VIT to make the ability work.

In your eaxmple (14,000 hp), you'd die if you took 18,901+ damage .... Shield would cap you to 35% damage or 4,900 damage. This means the shield deflected 14,001 hp of damage. This is > 100% of your hp so you die anyway.

**Dantrag** · 2012-05-23 12:26

Well, it's not 35% now, it's 100%. So a 200% hit will instagib you where a 199% hit will not?

**Necronus** · 2012-05-23 12:32

Originally Posted by Dantrag

Well, it's not 35% now, it's 100%. So a 200% hit will instagib you where a 199% hit will not?

No, 135% or greater is instagib.

Ths shield still works as before .. any single shot that does >35% of your HP will be reduced to 35%. The new caveat is, if the amount prevented by that reduction is >100% of your max HP, then you die anyway.

So, Wizard has 10,000 HP. Any hit that does > 3500 damage is reduced to 3500 damage. Now here's two examples under old and new systems.

Hit for 10,000 Damage (This will be the same pre and post patch)

Old System: Damage Capped to 3500 .... Shield has effectively prevented 6500. You live
New System: Damage Capped to 3500 .... Shield has effectively prevented 6500. You live

Hit for 50,000 Damage (This is why you will die in Inferno now)

Old System: Damage Capped to 3500 .... Shield has effectively prevented 46500. You live
New System: Damage Capped to 3500 .... Shield has effectively prevented 46500. 46500 > 10000 ... You die.

**Roranora** · 2012-05-23 12:35

Originally Posted by Artemicon

The Problem with this is that Damage per second = much, much, MUCH more real world end result damage than those additional secondary stats on the legendary. End result with that 1300 dps weapon would be leaps and bounds more over that of the legendary. This, along with other reasons (every class stacks VIT + their main secondary stat) is why we will probably see an itemization reform or patch in the future. I for one cannot stand that as a wizard I'm forced to carry around a fucking bow/2h sword to maximize my Damage dealing ability. Its absurd really but I still think its a fun game. >.<

hmm, not how i play at all, I like IAS more over some of these DPS differentials (for 1 example; [yes, highest DPS blues are going to have that affix, but peak under legendaries], for another example; manymany other stats instead of these +poison/lightning dmg numbers, nothx)

shrug. strokes, folks, the world, etc

**Lucavi** · 2012-05-23 12:39

I don't classify going through hell and not seeing a single unique as "fine", but to each his own.

**Syntex** · 2012-05-23 12:41

Originally Posted by Darkmagi

So... I'm somewhat at a loss on how to play demon hunter now that smoke screen has been patched, any ideas?

Kite shit.

Honestly I didn't discover smoke screen until NM diablo and it honestly made everything SUPER easy. Just need to learn to play DH the right way.

**Akiyama** · 2012-05-23 12:43

Originally Posted by Syntex

Kite shit.

Honestly I didn't discover smoke screen until NM diablo and it honestly made everything SUPER easy. Just need to learn to play DH the right way.

Yeah.. I've never actually played DH with Smokescreen the same way. It's just a quick 'get the fuck out' skill for me and always has been.. just can't run for 2 seconds. I use the 35% movement speed one, though.

**Roranora** · 2012-05-23 12:44

Originally Posted by Lucavi

I don't classify going through hell and not seeing a single unique as "fine", but to each his own.

Not sure if this was to me?

I've already said previously my one complaint is the legendary drop rate. totally agree

I've killed 37,000 demons and no orange letters. also, like i said. guess i'll just need nephvalor later and score the end-game we want anyway

I'm not too bitter there aren't that many Biggin's Bonnets / Iceblinks to level with, but I do wish I saw more than ZERO in 37,000 kills

**Raldo** · 2012-05-23 12:51

Originally Posted by Necronus

No, 135% or greater is instagib.

No. It merely says that it stops aborbing the extra damage at that point. You could still take a 150% max HP hit. You'd get hit for 50% of your max HP (as opposed to the expected 35%). The shield eats 100%, and leaves you to handle the rest.

It would indeed take a 200% hit in order to kill you if you were at max HP.

**Syntex** · 2012-05-23 12:55

Originally Posted by gt_killa

where do you farm in act 2 ?

I farmed a resplendiment(sp) chest in A2 before Magda with 180mf. Run in get the chest leave game. Did about 120 runs an hour and netted me 2 legendaries and a ton of awesome rares. The hotfix though broke it, now a normal shitty chest spawns and sometimes it doesn't spawn at all. Not to mention with the smokescreen change it's harder to get to.

**Akiyama** · 2012-05-23 12:59

Originally Posted by Syntex

I farmed a resplendiment(sp) chest in A2 before Magda with 180mf. Run in get the chest leave game. Did about 120 runs an hour and netted me 2 legendaries and a ton of awesome rares. The hotfix though broke it, now a normal shitty chest spawns and sometimes it doesn't spawn at all. Not to mention with the smokescreen change it's harder to get to.

180 magic find? god dayum. I've got 45 Magic Find and 45 Gold find in my main gear I"m wearing at 52. :<

**Imitarate** · 2012-05-23 13:11

I'm really trying to get into the spirit of what they're doing, but it just feels like SE patching AV. "HEY! You aren't supposed to be doing it like that! Stop it, you're having too much fun!"

I know some people enjoy the punishing level of difficulty, and I can definitely see the value to the accomplishment once you do overcome Inferno. I like that they're preserving that, so that doing well in higher difficulties is actually a rare and valuable thing. I just wish Blizzard seemed more focused on the "fun" part of this game.

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