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  1. #4821
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    FFXI was fun, D3 isn't fun for me anymore, and FFXI was a MMO, totally different IMO, I just see no point in doing 1k more damage in a game where you play solo 99% of the time if you already can do everything, it would be a different story if Blizzard decided to make multiplayer games worthwhile instead of detrimental

    It's like grinding hundreds of hours in a console RPG you have already beat so you can do a little more damage, I see no point in it, and don't find it entertaining in the least

    I spent most of my time in D2 in multiplayer games, I haven't joined a single MP game since I beat the game and I don't see a reason to anytime soon.

    In other words, I don't see a reason to strive for better gear in a mostly solo game past certain point.

  2. #4822
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    Yeah, it sucks that D3 makes it stupid hard to play with your friends in the harder difficulties.

  3. #4823
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icarian View Post
    It's like grinding hundreds of hours in a console RPG you have already beat so you can do a little more damage, I see no point in it, and don't find it entertaining in the least
    Or some RPGs that only allow you to find the best weapons/armor in the game after you clear the storyline / beat optional side bosses that can't be repeated with the best gear on top of offering no "New Game+" mode which lets you replay the game on a harder setting.

  4. #4824
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    I play a lot of multi in hell+, it's just much safer and easier.

  5. #4825
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    Man, I just played Path of Exile. Diablo 3 should have been what Path of Exile is.

    I made a character in Cut-throat League ( Hardcore, Full world PVP, full loot drop on death ). Playing the game normally is intense as hell until you see another character. Robbed or GET ROBBED!!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. #4826

    Sweaty Dick Punching Enthusiast

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    srs?

    sounds awful, lol. i like explicit cooperative play. not griefing or deceitful co-op. Yeah, players like that in D3, but if the game's mechanics support it? sounds awful

  7. #4827
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roranora View Post
    srs?

    sounds awful, lol. i like explicit cooperative play. not griefing or deceitful co-op. Yeah, players like that in D3, but if the game's mechanics support it? sounds awful
    Yeah cut throat is about as hardcore as it can get. When your character dies on Hardcore, the character got transfer to Softcore.

  8. #4828

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    I wonder what % of players opt for cut throat, haha. crazy

  9. #4829
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisamoo View Post
    You're not. Go spend 1000$ dollars on RMAH like you're supposed to, noob.
    aaaand ghom is down! only costed me 400k for a worthless weapon with LoH lol

    edit: here's a vid showing how its doable (overpower is overpowered lulz) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bySHCfTZHo

  10. #4830
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meph View Post
    aaaand ghom is down! only costed me 400k for a worthless weapon with LoH lol

    edit: here's a vid showing how its doable (overpower is overpowered lulz) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bySHCfTZHo
    How much LOH is on that?

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    that guy only have 300, I went in with just under 700

  12. #4832
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    Overpower is definitely undervalued imo.

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    Yeah I'm starting to worry about LOH and crit builds.

  14. #4834
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    well, I never imagined reflect would trigger LoH :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyis. View Post
    Overpower is definitely undervalued imo.
    I roll with overpower sometimes. But its usually more effective to SSJ spec (wrath + quake)

  16. #4836
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eanae View Post
    With 8k dps on my tank barb I get the under 2 minute achievement and kill him as quickly each time, so I still have no idea what you may be doing wrong.
    But you can stand in the fire like I said because of your gear and tank spec, right? I personally have no problem killing butcher now, but back when my barb was still using ilvl 60 and under gear it was impossible to kill him before rage. What is the butcher's hp total now? The guide book has it at 18.2m but that can't be right. Killing him would take over 15 minutes with 8k dps then.

    lol at LoH working with overpower's reflect damage. I fully expect them to nerf this. With my crit build I can probably keep that overpower effect up almost fulltime.

  17. #4837
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    8k dps on your char sheet =/= actually doing 8k dps.

    My dh with ~70k pre-ss, 105k after, regularly does 200k+ on each target quite easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plow View Post
    8k dps on your char sheet =/= actually doing 8k dps.

    My dh with ~70k pre-ss, 105k after, regularly does 200k+ on each target quite easily.
    I know that. Divide 18.2m by 16,000 and you still get ~19 minutes. (8kdps using frenzy would result in 15,400 actual damage per second.) Either the butcher takes extra damage, the hp total is different from the guide book (which is probably what's happening), or something else that's weird is going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadgye View Post
    lol at LoH working with overpower's reflect damage. I fully expect them to nerf this. With my crit build I can probably keep that overpower effect up almost fulltime.
    I was curious and tested it on monk. LoH doesn't proc with monk's reflect mantra.

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