Mysteries of the Mighty Barbarians.

**Uzor** · 2011-09-01 15:24

I think it'd be good to make a combination. They want to cap it at 60 to make Inferno really hard; but what about having something like "merit points", and only those count on the ladder? You wouldn't get any extra stats from having merit points, but the amount of Merit Points you've attained is shown on the ladder? Each and every Merit Point could require twice the amount of exp it took to go from 59>60 or something. That way they could allow you to get an infinite amount of Merit Points as it wouldn't unbalance the game since the Merit Points by themselves has no purpose other than to compete in the ladder.

**Vandole** · 2011-09-01 17:17

uzor, gear that drops in inferno will make inferno much easier. it's going to be like vanilla wow most likely. the tier 3 gear from level 60 lasted until about level 65-68.

blizz knew what gear balancing was in vanilla wow but then it kinda got out of hand

**arus2001** · 2011-09-01 19:36

I can get the perk of "starting fresh" with others, but that can pretty much be achieved without a ranking system like all ladder really was. Meanwhile, once rankings were flooded with 99s named XxBoobyzonxX and the like, there was really no point to the scoreboard since the #1s would just ping pong between who most recently killed something despite EXP totals not changing. It'd be one thing if the leveling process was legitimately challenging, but it was just a grind, and for every person who might feel some sort of sustained progress, you'll probably have just as many, if not more, who get sick of the repetition. Then you could multiply this repetition against MF runs, where the level scaling aspect of Hell and variable treasure classes basically meant running anything other than Baal after a certain point was mostly no EXP at all. Good luck actually getting loot in public games with all the pickit bots, too.

For those demanding some kind of accomplishment recording, this where I'd say something like achievements would be more prudent. Monitor how many of certain item classes you pick up, deaths, kills in a difficulty, or conditions like "Beat X boss without taking damage." You're far more likely to find people who've "learned to play" this route than just going by a simple EXP total.

**aurik** · 2011-09-01 20:11

Well basically you just showed (again) that you're kinda ignorant. The "flood of 99s" was fixed in ...2004? The problem there was that leaderboards are meaningless when you can hard-cap "easily"...and that's probably the main reason why D3 won't have leaderboards. Once they rebalanced the game so it was extremely hard to hit 99, leaderboards were useful again.

Also, D3 loot will be instanced per-player...no more need for "pickit" bots. And as mentioned before, no xp loss on death. So, anyway, if you want to participate in a discussion you should really make an effort to educate yourself.

**Deadgye** · 2011-09-01 21:18

People seem to forget that some cube recipes and some runewords couldn't be made in non-ladder but would be brought to non-ladder everytime the ladder was reset. I liked that part of the difference. (Mainly just stuff didn't feel right if there wasn't green text under my character.)

**Uzor** · 2011-09-01 21:43

Originally Posted by Vandole

uzor, gear that drops in inferno will make inferno much easier. it's going to be like vanilla wow most likely. the tier 3 gear from level 60 lasted until about level 65-68.

blizz knew what gear balancing was in vanilla wow but then it kinda got out of hand

I know that; but they said the reason they're capping it at 60 is to make Inferno harder. They claim you will need to rerun hell a couple of times to get gear because "Inferno will be very difficult".

I'm wondering if Inferno will even drop higher quality gear than Hell, or if it will only have a higher drop% than Hell; what with the level cap and all.

**Vandole** · 2011-09-01 21:49

they already said it will... did you not watch that old video? lol

**aurik** · 2011-09-01 21:50

From my understanding, it'll drop a 4th tier of stuff.

**djzombie** · 2011-09-01 22:50

And armor from each difficulty has unique art(yay!)

**avelle** · 2011-09-01 22:52

Unfortunately, the Inferno armor looks really bad imo, but we'll see how it looks from the isometric view in game.

**djzombie** · 2011-09-02 00:32

Yeah my one complaint was that the armor i've seen so far has looked pretty reminiscent of wow armor sets, I really hope thats just coincidence and that they'll have some kick ass art later on.

I'm also kind of shocked there seems to be no pally, and no healer of any type? Are all classes getting heals? Or have healers just been phased out?

**Gokulo** · 2011-09-02 05:35

Character Creation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q6lL...layer_embedded

**avelle** · 2011-09-02 07:16

Originally Posted by Gokulo

Character Creation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q6lL...layer_embedded

Wow, is the beta client out already? If that had been recorded at the press event at Blizzard or at Gamescom, I would think it would have been released before now.

**avelle** · 2011-09-02 07:39

Thread about it on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/diablo3/comm...$%es/?sort=new

Image dump from the thread:

Spoiler: show

**avelle** · 2011-09-02 07:46

Not sure who the fuck runs games at 1024 anymore but do want so damn bad...

**Rivero** · 2011-09-02 08:03

Has beta been released already, or is this an Alpha for family and friends? Game looks really nice from the pictures.

**avelle** · 2011-09-02 08:06

Originally Posted by Rivero

Has beta been released already, or is this an Alpha for family and friends? Game looks really nice from the pictures.

This guy is supposedly an ex-Blizzard employee. Most likely F&F alpha/beta.

**Uzor** · 2011-09-02 09:14

I want NOW.

**Dantrag** · 2011-09-02 09:20

Originally Posted by Uzor

I want NOW.

This. GW2 or DIII or bust.

**Rulke** · 2011-09-02 11:53

D3 played fugging great the last 2 years of Blizzcon, I can't imagine the builds going anywhere but up since then. I wonder what section(s) they will open for beta testing.

Probably going to have at least some of the PvP stuff available to start wider balancing I'd wager

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