Sheep in Antlion's Clothing

[Asura_Zilla]

This ENM is starting to piss me off. This is the third time in a row me and my duo partner have timed out due to not finding Tuchulcha. We've done this quite a few times and have memorized the areas where it spawns, but recently it seems like you got to stand right on top of the fucking thing for it to aggro you. Today I must've passed at least 4 or 5 times by the area it popped that we timed out on, but it didn't aggro, and every time I passed on top of it it wasn't much of a distance difference. Did SE change this shit?

[Elites]

something definitely was ninja'ed into this in update regarding duo partners being able to fight it easily.

[Duber]

I didn't have any problem last time (some days ago). Also, you can use search function if you looking for advices/strategy.

[Lordwafik]

This ENM is starting to piss me off. This is the third time in a row me and my duo partner have timed out due to not finding Tuchulcha. We've done this quite a few times and have memorized the areas where it spawns, but recently it seems like you got to stand right on top of the fucking thing for it to aggro you. Today I must've passed at least 4 or 5 times by the area it popped that we timed out on, but it didn't aggro, and every time I passed on top of it it wasn't much of a distance difference. Did SE change this shit?

nearly happened to us the other day we nearly timed out too, it's retarded, it's like they lowered his ambush radius or something.

[Anomander]

Same thing happened to us. My group popped all the mini's and we had them all dead and Tuchulca to 50 percent and 11 minutes left...then...we ran around for 11 minutes trying to pop the bastard. No go. I run this with 4 people so we easily had to cover nearly every square inch. I know I personally ran over everything nearly 3 times. Timing out was a real kick in the balls. Called a GM about it but they said that it was working correctly, didn't think to ask about a change though.

Does anyone know if the fillmode in windower allows you to see them under the ground? Someone in the other thread said that it does...however, I tried this after 7 minutes of not popping it (never tried before, never had problems) and didn't see it anywhere. Couldn't really say that to the GM, but if you ARE normally supposed to be able to see it, it may very well be borked.

[Nauq]

Fillmode does not allow you to see it. However, I only recently started doing this ENM.

[Mytiwar]

Wow this sucks..

But yeah it will always work accordingly for GMs.

'Steam Cleaner is working properly'

[Black]

well i always do it as 2ppl WAR/SAM and RDM/WHM we timedout 2times out of many trys but usually we done it at 12-13min.
with 3ppl we never ever got timeout or lost any,but its kinda a bit slow with 2ppl p-p
if we got 2 pets poped we kill 2 and keep 3rd one slept incase it poped on us

[Elites]

Fillmode does not work anymore atleast 50% of the time. It's buggy however that doesent mean shit when you cant see the regular mobs underneath you anyway.

[Duber]

Anymore ? I don't think it ever worked properly on this bc. There are chances you can see it with fillmode, but you can't rely on that.
Some times I had problems finding it too, but I didn't notice any significant change after any update.

[richardd]

huh? how did this used to aggro? lol. Did it have a larger radius than usual as far as the ambush range goes? I did this ENM yesterday and the only thing i noticed was just that they were randomly sometimes too bunched up together, because i aggroed the NM and its baby in one small spot. We usually just sleep it, but still. i thought it was just bad luck.

[Vyerz]

If you keep fillmode up during the entire ENM it'll usually kick in at least once =o, usually for me it -at least- kicks in once and it's usually tulchukaka (sp) because he's bigger than the other ones. But there have been times when it never kicks it, still handy to leave up though. 2 People /nin and a whm can usually tear through this no problem, start reposing adds if time gets low ect ect.

[Asura_Zilla]

nearly happened to us the other day we nearly timed out too, it's retarded, it's like they lowered his ambush radius or something.

This is what I meant.

[Phraust]

Just did this right now. Got it to 16% in 5 min then spent the rest of the time trying to pop it, ran over the entire zone 4 times popped every baby and the main one never came. Talk about frustrating... My first attempt at duoing, going awesome just to have my time wasted. Wouldnt' be so bad if it didn't involve that fucking mountain....

[Silenka]

I can usually see it with fillmode, but one time cost me a win for my group because I saw Tchu but didn't see one of the small ones, they both popped on me and destroyed me, my group pulled the small one and didn't see Tchu so it regened quite a bit =/ With 1 man down and a regened Tchu we timed out at something like 12% of its health left.

Sucks balls. =(

[Amok]

I don't understand how fillmode only works sometimes. Is it because the model isnt' always drawn based on where the mob is? Couldn't you replace his model with a dhalmel and just look for the head sticking out of the ground? Excuse me if my questions are silly.

[Rafe]

The only silly thing is the image of a dhalmel head sticking out of the ground spinning around in my imagination.
The fickle nature of fillmode working might have to do with how the game loads/unloads mobs/how underground mobs "move" (like worms.) Sometimes bringing a third person to make sure you can kill (or hell, even find the guy) on time is worth the extra split (of urushi.)

[Silenka]

The only silly thing is the image of a dhalmel head sticking out of the ground spinning around in my imagination.
The fickle nature of fillmode working might have to do with how the game loads/unloads mobs/how underground mobs "move" (like worms.) Sometimes bringing a third person to make sure you can kill (or hell, even find the guy) on time is worth the extra split (of urushi.)

Trufax!

I've never duo'd this, what's the usual duo setup? RDM / some DD?

In fact my party usually loses with 4 >.> I attribute to the fact that we don't have a RDM or enough DD but eh. A 5-way hagun on siren is still a very good amount of money.

Not that hagun ever drops, of course, it's just a myth.

(Use Tachi: Koki!)

[Falisa]

I duo this BRD/WHM SAM/NIN. Used to do MNK/NIN for DD too. We finish this ENM pretty quickly but we rarely get the smaller antlion so I cant say how well that duo would do if you got the others often.

Hagun is a myth

[Kurt Cobain]

fillmode has never worked (for me) for this, nor can I see normal antlions in attohwa chasm with it, and just corroborating what everyone else said, but my duo partner had to be directly on top of it for it to ambush the last time we did it.