All-Seeing Onyx Eye

[burytheweak]

I'm wondering if this NM pops under normal circumstances, i.e. after X-amount of hours after death.
Or is this NM a Campaign Ops only NM? Do I have to have a certain Campaign Ops activated for him to appear?
Also, can one enter La Vaule[S] if one is not on a certain Campaign Op? And can one enter La Vaule[S] even if they are not allied to the nation that has it controlled?
Thank you.

[Naver]

It's a Stronghold Invasion NM. 2-3 hr repop, not exactly sure.

[Pergo]

Anyone can enter La Vaule. He just pops every 2-4 hours.

[Valena]

I'd like to set up a group specifically against this NM, but the Wiki description freaks the shit out of me.

Sch mob, can AM2 ga, fast (or instant ?) cast when low HP, and of course, all the Eyes special treats : Eye on Me and level 5 Petrify ....


Anybody got some testimony of a somehow low man gang on this mob ? Bonus point for an estimation of his HP, all I can figure out is a zerg start ATM.

Doesn't help that you can't kite far down in the river, you aggro the orcs in the stronghold above.

[Eldelphia]

He can be done easily with pet jobs. He's not as bad as the wiki makes out but he's not a walk in the park. Charm just gets irritating. You may find that your server has the same thing going on that we have, BSTs are ruling La Vaulle right now. BST+SMN on this thing took it down for our group in the end.

[Kuroshi]

Having fought this, he's really not all that hard Valena; his nukes and petrify are NOT the problem, but whoever is currently 'tanking' should stay with their back turned. He does a gaze charm effect pretty much with every other normal attack round.

He will AMga once the whole fight if I remember right, i've only fought it twice though. His other spells are easy enough to avoid.

[Liseth]

Done this with as little as three people including a BST charming the Pugils in the area, myself on BLM/RDM for Dispel, and a WHM. The biggest thing to be wary about is not getting charmed which you can easily avoid by having your back turned to it the entire fight. He's Stunable so anything that might send you into calamity you can easily handle if you're paying attention to it. Not a hard fight by any means.

[ninjafox]

This NM is really easy. Tank with ur back turned, Mages stand at least 15" away and you should have no probs

[drwaffles]

It's not hard to solo on RDM/NIN. The only issue is the motherfucking Cure IV spam below ~30% HP that really, really slows things down. Petrify isn't too much of an issue since it doesn't last all that long and the NM itself hits fairly slowly and not very hard. At low HP the most dangerous thing is almost instant-cast tier IVs, but they should only land beyond shadows if you're extremely unlucky, and did only ~300 through Stoneskin to me when they did.

I strongly advise having Bio III merits if you want to attempt this; if you don't, just make sure you have lots of shihei and spare time.

[Pergo]

he's solo-able (rdm/nin) due to the fact that la vaule generally isn't occupied unless your server has splitting heirs or is trying to get splitting heirs.

-tag him > run towards the zone, when you get to the tigers, invis up, continue towards the zone. you can generally run all the way to the zone without stopping, i've never seen him lose aggro.

-once you're at the zone, poison2 > zone, bio2 (or 3) > zone. repeat, repeat, repeat.

something to note is that he has access to erase and poisona, which can mess up your dot pattern, but he has an interesting casting pattern. he will not debuff himself while heading back to his pop spot. so after you zone, you don't have to worry about him debuffing your dot while you're zoned... what you do have to worry about is if you zone in too quickly, and he aggros you before you even load in the zone, he might erase or poisona before you load in, and it won't show up on your log.

each time you zone in/aggro, he'll usually almost instantly use charm, and then after about 5-10 sec will cast a spell. i usually wait to see what he's casting before zoning. if it's tier4 or helix, let a shadow take it and zone... if its aga, you can zone out and interrupt it's casting.

once he's below 30% he'll start using cures very very frequently. the trick here is to not allow him to cast. as i said earlier, he won't cast anything if he doesn't have a target, so if you zone in, dot, and immediately zone out, it'll take him a couple secs to start casting, but in this case he won't cast anything. if he happens to start casting a cure as you're zoning, depending on server lag and when the game considers you officially out of the zone, it might actually interrupt his cure since he doesn't have a target.

anyways i've solo'd him about 5 times like this. i've never really had to worry about stealing it because chances are: a) they don't care, b) they zoned in and ran ahead into the zone before he even loaded on the screen for them, or c) they don't have enough to kill it anyways

[drwaffles]

Um, you don't have to zone at all. You can pretty much :Ichi-tank it all the way to low HP, no need to faf about with zoning and re-applying DoTs á la Ix'DRG. There's probably less margin for error when using that method than there is when tanking it.

[Valena]

Thanks for the replies.

I'll give a go at solo attempt, the zoning strat seems easy to pull off, given enough patience.

And I've got a few Smn friends I can bother in case I get my ass handed down to me several times. I feel a bit stupid not thinking about pet jobs before.

But 1st thing 1st, wait for the Beastmen to take back La Vaule. The place has been overcrowded since last sunday.

[Pergo]

yeah, you can definitely straight tank it, but zoning it takes around an hour to kill. straight tanking/kiting it, it'll probably take double that because he really loves his cure4 after 30%.

[Thorny]

How resistant to nukes is this NM, considering it's an eye? I have a BLM75 alt with 8/8 ele merits, adequate AH gear, but no merciful/sorc hat.. would I be able to nuke/zone it in a decent amount of time(say 20-30 min)if I held it with my main, or is it too resistant?

[Pergo]

yeah, i usually 2box my friend's blm when i do it. he's an eye so nukes do reduced damage, but unresisted thunder4 does about 400ish dmg, which is like 2-3%. you won't get resisted all that often, these campaign mobs don't really have high resist rates. the blm's damage really helps killspeed and taking out the final hp at the end of the fight.

[Cesaria]

Like someone said - pet jobs are king on him. Duoed him last night (fiance's soled him a couple of times as well) and you feel quite sorry for the chap when he's standing there (or floating or whatever eyes do) trying desperately to charm an already charmed tiger.

[Thorny]

yeah, i usually 2box my friend's blm when i do it. he's an eye so nukes do reduced damage, but unresisted thunder4 does about 400ish dmg, which is like 2-3%. you won't get resisted all that often, these campaign mobs don't really have high resist rates. the blm's damage really helps killspeed and taking out the final hp at the end of the fight.

Thanks very much for the info :D

[Spekkio]

Like someone said - pet jobs are king on him. Duoed him last night (fiance's soled him a couple of times as well) and you feel quite sorry for the chap when he's standing there (or floating or whatever eyes do) trying desperately to charm an already charmed tiger.

doesn't the higher lvl of the tiger make for short charms? do you convert half the zone to 75 before you start? i thought the strat was just to pull it into the river and haul it up and down it while pitching pugils at it till it expired.

[drwaffles]

yeah, you can definitely straight tank it, but zoning it takes around an hour to kill. straight tanking/kiting it, it'll probably take double that because he really loves his cure4 after 30%.

I killed him in something like 1 hour 30 minutes on my first try, without Bio III merits. I honestly don't think the Ix'DRG method is worth the headache.

[Cesaria]

The tigers pop EM to T and while they can be somewhat annoying - the only charm resist I had doing it in a duo last night was charming an EM (after charming Ts all night - typical). They don't last long enough to make the higher con of them a real issue.

Not done it solo myself (fiance has a few times) but then charming the tiggers is a bit more risky so pugiling it to death seems to be the way forward. Can't take it all the way up-river or you start to risk orc aggro - but there's a fair area to work him in as long as you don't kill too many of the fish off.

Agrios is doable in the same way duo at least - but he throws rocks that hurt