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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    Come on Tyche, that's stupid. His Roleplayers aren't THAT bad. Let's not compare to one of the worst teams in the NBA. Granted Cleveland's roleplayers/bench are no LA/Denver/Orlando, but you make up for that by having one of the best players in the NBA in LeBron. He's had too many cases tonight where he's tried to feed his teammates instead of being selfish and driving to the hoop. He's also taking too many jump shots.
    I agree, that's why I already said that. But other than Mo Williams, he has noone. He has no bench whatsoever. None. His supporting cast is dreadful and there's no was to rationalize they're anything other than sub-par.

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    Outside of the Cavs starting five, their roleplayers are pretty bad. Well, they're great during the regular season when every team goes 10-11 deep, but when you shorten your bench in the playoffs you see how overrated they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    I agree, that's why I already said that. But other than Mo Williams, he has noone. He has no bench whatsoever. None. His supporting cast is dreadful and there's no was to rationalize they're anything other than sub-par.
    I agree. They are below average, and only because they play with LeBron do they become sort of average. Either way, they have just disappeared this series because of how well Orlando matches up against them. That and LeBron made some stupid, STUPID decisions tonight.

    Either way, his starting cast is still decent, and there's no excuse for how bad they've played. Also, there's a few turnovers tonight by King James that were silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fren. View Post
    Ok
    He popped a 3 pointer with 5 seconds left, and if it weren't for not having a timeout, we'd probably be in a 2nd overtime right now. What, you prevented him from making a 50ft shot at the end of the game, great job closing him out.

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    I feel bad for Cleveland, everytime they get hyped up for a potential championship run they get smacked in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    He popped a 3 pointer with 5 seconds left, and if it weren't for not having a timeout, we'd probably be in a 2nd overtime right now. What, you prevented him from making a 50ft shot at the end of the game, great job closing him out.
    Your an idiot, they are called superstars for a reason. A good defensive team doesn't contain the superstar they contain his role players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    He popped a 3 pointer with 5 seconds left, and if it weren't for not having a timeout, we'd probably be in a 2nd overtime right now. What, you prevented him from making a 50ft shot at the end of the game, great job closing him out.
    The Magic were the underdogs coming into the series and you're pretty much making it look like David vs. Goliath.

    Great job indeed, 3-1.

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    if the Cav gets another heavy weight, reliable player to form a duo with lebron, there could be a dynasty. like kobe shaq reincarnation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stee View Post
    Your an idiot, they are called superstars for a reason. A good defensive team doesn't contain the superstar they contain his role players.
    Where did I say this wasn't the case? Quote me instead of calling me an idiot. He has no roleplayers, so it's not hard to contain them. The point I made was that despite Orlando being much deeper, better outside, better inside, more talented top to bottom, making 50% of their 3pters and hitting a record number behind the arch, they are still having trouble closing out the game because of a single player.

    This is now a one game series. Game 6. I think Cleveland will come out and win game 5, and game 6 will be an epic battle.

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    The only people who had Orlando as the underdogs in the series was espn and TNT because, well, they're dumbasses. You knew the Magic had huge match-up advantages.

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    They need a consistent shooter. When LBJ drives and kicks, he doesn't have a Kerr, Fisher, Posey or Horry. The guys he has now aren't winning any 3 pt contests any time soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche View Post
    Where did I say this wasn't the case? Quote me instead of calling me an idiot. He has no roleplayers, so it's not hard to contain them. The point I made was that despite Orlando being much deeper, better outside, better inside, more talented top to bottom, making 50% of their 3pters and hitting a record number behind the arch, they are still having trouble closing out the game because of a single player.

    This is now a one game series. Game 6. I think Cleveland will come out and win game 5, and game 6 will be an epic battle.
    Like I said they are called superstars for a reason, blaming Orlando for Lebron making those shots is just a retarded way of lashing out.

    And stop it with the whole 1 vs 5 crap, last I checked Lebron did not score 114 points in this game.

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    I'm not blaming them for LeBron making the shots, I'm blaming them for an inability to close out despite much better talent and superior depth. In the last 3:30, Orlando went 1-6 with 2 turnovers. On the other side, Lebron assists a 3pt play, scores a bucket, dishes to West, who takes it to Howard and scores, followed by lebron getting 4 free throws and making 3 of them. And while it's quite obviously not 1 vs 5 (I know you're being facetious) and lebron isn't scoring 114 points, Mo Williams and West had pretty decent scores, but still shot about 40% and went 0-6 from the 3pt line.

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    Incoming Dwight Howard versus Kobe Bryant not-so-epic finale when the Lakers win in 5.

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    Lakers can't win in 5 =/

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    Sure they can. I think Denver could beat Orlando, and the Lakers will probably beat the Nuggets in 6, so I think they can beat the Magic in 5.

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    The way you worded it seemed like it was saying "when LA beats denver in 5, we'll have a not-so-epic final between Kobe and howard". Sorry, I misremembered your post.

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    No problem man! Everyone misremembers. Ask Roger Clemens.

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    being a lakers fan myself, i can't see lakers winning more than 2 games against orlando, especially considering how both teams have performed this post season

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kibble View Post
    The only people who had Orlando as the underdogs in the series was espn and TNT because, well, they're dumbasses. You knew the Magic had huge match-up advantages.
    Vegas also had the Cavs as the favorite to win the NBA championship ;o

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