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  1. #3661
    YOU ARE SEARED
    Dungeon Master of the House of Weave

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    Effort Points/Gear Points.

    It creates a ratio system to determine loot priority, wherein you're awarded EP for various tasks and given GP when you get loot; your EP divided by your GP is your Priority Rank, and generally loot boils down to whoever is highest on PR among all the people who want the piece.

    The layman's result is that the longer you go without receiving loot, the more likely you are to receive some, as everyone else around you is getting their PR adjusted down (thanks to the GP costs) while yours is only going up with every boss killed.

    It also prevents people from sitting on longstanding points by causing your total accumulation to decay over time, keeping your ratio in check so newbies don't come along and have zero chance at gear.

  2. #3662
    Sassy Tyrant
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    Falisa Asile
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    Yeah I was really iffy about point systems coming into WoW but I really am a fan of EPGP. Both EP and GP for every person in the guild decay by 15% before every raid and you can download an addon that displays everyone's current standings. Its right there for everyone to see and I find it to be a very fair system according to the effort you put in.

    Really silly for the guy to flip out so much. I don't think the officers even want to give the guy a chance to come back in because apparently he did the same thing when another person got a heroic Death's Choice over him. Oh well, eliminating the competition.

  3. #3663
    Campaign
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    hunter is srs business

  4. #3664
    Sea Torques
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamanosukeShiva View Post
    hunter is srs business
    Have this one hunter in my guild who takes it pretty 'cereal'.

    2 of us have the 251 bow, and 1 has the 10togc bow. The last one has the 25toc bow, and because of that, feels that he gets first priority on Lady Deathwhisper's 25man bow.

    I'm gonna love looting the shit out of it, his tears will be so delicious.

    *Should mention when I got my 251 bow, he had his 245, I had giant'sbane/ H ICC 5man cbow, and hence why I won't feel bad rolling against 'his'.

  5. #3665
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    Arathor

    I'm still rocking fezzik's autocannon, fuck zod and fuck his bow.

  6. #3666
    Mithra Ero-Sensei
    Sex Manthra

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    Erosensei Gulkeeva
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    Magtheridon

    I'm still the only hunter in my guild...
    none have apped in the past 3-4 weeks now (after 6-7 of'em joined stayed 1 week or less n quit/transfer/disappear)..

    If I was able to keep every zod bow that dropped.. and you could equip a bow in every slot... well... I'd be raping people pretty hard!

  7. #3667
    Hydra
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    Finally killed 25m Putricide. Funny how in 10 man you can drop him to phase 2 before the second experiment.
    They made 10 man way to easy.

  8. #3668
    blax n gunz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakk-Siren View Post
    Finally killed 25m Putricide. Funny how in 10 man you can drop him to phase 2 before the second experiment.
    They made 10 man way to easy.
    Way too easy for 25-man guilds, perhaps. Try doing it in nothing better than ToC10 gear and say that again :D

  9. #3669
    Ridill
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    My 10 man crew makes my 25 man crew look bad...

    We took like at least 3x as many tries to down PP on 10 as on 25.

  10. #3670
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    I'm confused, Plow. Your two statements seem to be at cross purposes with one another.

    And although I advocate for more 10-man content, I do have to say that Putricide and his Abominations are easier on 10-man. I've PUG'd them. Now, of course, I'm on Mal'ganis, the most progressed US server, but the point stands that a bunch of people there had, at best, one or two items of iLevel 264 and we were still able to get Putricide down in 4 or 5 tries.

  11. #3671
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onorgul View Post
    I'm confused, Plow. Your two statements seem to be at cross purposes with one another.

    And although I advocate for more 10-man content, I do have to say that Putricide and his Abominations are easier on 10-man. I've PUG'd them. Now, of course, I'm on Mal'ganis, the most progressed US server, but the point stands that a bunch of people there had, at best, one or two items of iLevel 264 and we were still able to get Putricide down in 4 or 5 tries.
    Putricide is more tightly tuned on 10 than on 25. (the first week it was out even, a blue commented that 25 is exactly as intended, and 10 "may be a little overtuned.")

    It took us like... I'm not sure even. We didn't get pp the first week with 10 tries. The 2nd week I can't remember how many tries it took before we actually got him. Last week we knew on our very first attempt at "Nausea... etc." that we'd be able to get it pretty easily, cuz on 10 man it's not even that much different than not doing it.

    Meanwhile in 25 man, we did like 3 or 4 attempts last week before we ran out of time, and hadn't touched him before that.

    This week we 1 shot him and then spent 8 or 9 attempts wiping on BQ before running out of time because STAY THE FUCK BACK WHILE WE'RE PULLING AND POSITIONING is a really fucking hard concept for most of our 25 man.

  12. #3672
    Mithra Ero-Sensei
    Sex Manthra

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    Yeah doing the achievement for PP, makes him sort of challenging considering the speed of the oozes (that and the dps loss from green one blowing up constantly tossing raid everywhere)

    I need to ninja sneak/sit out away and just pew pew instead of stacking up one these days... someones always watching me though being like.. the only hunter ;/

  13. #3673
    Ridill
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    Whispering Fanged Skull decided to drop for us tonight, only the rogue and I were the ones to roll on it. Rogue rolled a 76, and then I powered out a 96 and was like FUCK YOU.

  14. #3674
    Cookiez n Leechez
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    Ryphen Darconel
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    Convincing 39 random people not to rush blindly to Vanndar when we outnumbered the allies at the start of the game and do Frostwolf Perfection instead.

  15. #3675
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    You need a medal, Ryphen. Seriously, getting 4 people to sit down and do something is damned near impossible, getting that done is bloody amazing.

  16. #3676
    Sea Torques
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    Did 25+3 drake.

    Oh wait that would of been an accomplishment 4-5months ago..

    Wee new title though.

  17. #3677
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    Hey it still counts on guildox lol :D

  18. #3678
    Sea Torques
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    Took my Resto Druid from a 2700 GS in Blues and Greens to a 4800+ Gearscore running Heroics for a little over a week. I remember getting thrown into a Heroic ToC with 2 purples and not being able to heal it at all, to last night I ran Heroic HoR for the first time without a single wipe and above 50% Mana most of the instance. Was getting compliments left and right about my heals.

  19. #3679
    blax n gunz
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    4pc t10 at last. Thanks, Toravon.

  20. #3680
    Relic Horn
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    I hit the gold cap today, pulled in 30k+ over the weekend. I thought it'd take me till next weekend from my last post (on friday?), but the darkmoon faire opening up helped out a bunch.

    http://i49.tinypic.com/28vda4y.jpg

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