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  1. #5681
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    Downed heroic atramedes after like an hour and a half of attempts. What a joke of a boss now.

    GOT MAH SARK

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    Thanks all for the Nef advice (in the random complaint thread)! We killed him on the next raiding night (yesterday). Ugly / horrible SS to follow. It was the guild front page pic, but it's so compressed its ugly

    http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/v...8197075897.jpg

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    gz!

    Spoiler: show
    i spent at least 20 seconds trying to figure out what faction your guild was

  4. #5684
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    white hawkstrider from MGT. Finally another i can scratch off the list.

  5. #5685
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    Ive been doing awesome as my feral cat lately. in 10 man stuff:

    ranked #9 in the world for Algaloth (yeah i know, lolalgaloth)
    ranked #16 in the world for Nef
    ranked #56 or something for Omnitron
    ranked #103 for Chimareon.

    Chitose from Tempest. I feel pretty tuff!

  6. #5686
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    A quick question: what's your reasoning behind reforging haste to crit? From what I've read (for the life of me I can't find them anywhere now) the stat weights for crit/haste are so close that it's hard to definitively tell which is truly better. However, I could be recalling outdated information.

  7. #5687
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    Some of his reforges/gem choices are off.

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    It may just be personal preference, I prefer crit over haste. It's mainly for the extra CP, which i guess isn't as much of an issue now that FB is worthless above 25%... but my crit's are pretty retarded. 56-60k+ Rip Crits, 30-40k+ Shred crit's. My main thing is i like to maintain about 40% crit (unbuffed - which i have now), then i can go for haste. But until the few pieces of epic gear drop that i need, I'm not gonna have enough extra crit laying around to reforge into haste or remove some of the existing reforges

    Quote Originally Posted by Slott View Post
    Some of his reforges/gem choices are off.
    and its "her" ;p

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    Well from messing with Mew, removing just the haste -> crit reforges and leaving any that are haste -> mastery the way they are results in a extremely minor DPS increase (lol ~7 DPS so 3500 damage in a 500 second fight).

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    haste will prolly matter in the next tier or two when gear has higher ilv's, but as of now its not my concern. I've never looked at Mew... I just know what stat's I like better and where I like em to be

  11. #5691
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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    The people who answered my questions about tanking in the other thread will appreciate this more, (perhaps) but I tanked a couple of dungeons yesterday, first time, on the pally I'm leveling with my friend's hunter. Yeah, he changed his mind - was initially going druid - but I stuck with pally anyway. The first run was RFC and so it was super easy, but I was nervous about whether I was pulling too quickly or too slow, no one said anything though. The second was SFK (obviously a bit later in the day) and I was a bit more apprehensive about it because that is a longer dungeon with a lot of little corridors and I didn't want to miss anything. I actually did skip the boss in the kitchen by accident but we were able to go around the back door and pull him.

    I will say this: tanking is stressful in this game. Everything moves so damn quickly and I'm just worried that my reaction times are going to suck. My friend kept wanting to queue all day but my brain needed some downtime in between. All he had to do was stand in the back and shoot stuff. I've got a hunter, too, it's easybutton compared to tanking. All in all it went better than I thought it would but I'm by no means 100% confident that I'm ready to start tanking everything and its sister. Though I'll keep at it, we'll do a couple of dungeons every time we go out to level together.

    So long story short, tanked my first dungeons yesterday, it went well enough, and thanks for the advice guys.

  12. #5692
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    It may just be personal preference, I prefer crit over haste. It's mainly for the extra CP, which i guess isn't as much of an issue now that FB is worthless above 25%... but my crit's are pretty retarded. 56-60k+ Rip Crits, 30-40k+ Shred crit's. My main thing is i like to maintain about 40% crit (unbuffed - which i have now), then i can go for haste. But until the few pieces of epic gear drop that i need, I'm not gonna have enough extra crit laying around to reforge into haste or remove some of the existing reforges

    and its "her" ;p
    My mistake. Katlan - for one, there is no way you're getting 56-60k rip crits, you probably mean 16-20. As for CP generation - haste is a more valuable stat since it's more reliable, and faster energy regeneration helps out. With the loss of FB in our rotation, you need 5 cp for rip every 26ish seconds, and 2-5 cp every 25-40 seconds for savage roar. Haste scales faster (you get more % per point of haste than crit % per point of crit) The reforges in question were chosing to reforge haste or crit rather than hit or expertise into mastery. Despite getting less total mastery, the overall gain is higher since the opportunity cost for haste is roughly .1-.15 haste-> mastery, while closer to .3 for hit/expertise to mastery.

    You'd also be better off with 2 40 agi gems in your pants, and 40 agi gem in boots. The bonus of +20 agi with 20 mastery/hit is worth less than 40 straight agility - same principle applies to your boots.

    Other things - your gloves use a mastery enchant. Strength is worth almost double mastery's value. Even if you don't want to splurge into a +50 strength, the +35 strength enchant is worth more than the +50-+65 mastery enchants by quite a bit. (keep in mind, our bleeds scale entirely off AP and crit (well mastery too) - not weapon damage, or haste) Strength gives +2 AP per point, multiplied by mark of the wild, 25% ap bonus in cat, 10% bonus from something like might. The WoTLK agility cloak enchant (22 agility) is worth more dps than the 50 crit enchant you're using. 22 agility at roughly 3-3.2 DPS per point is worth almost 3 times as much as each point of crit.

    I appologize if you don't want the criticism, but as a feral myself, I think these pointers should help you out.

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...slott/advanced is my armory, if it helps at all.

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    cloak enchant ive been lazy on until I get maloriak cloak w/has not dropped once (insert QQ) - but agi enchant is so cheap I should just go ahead and do it... I keep expecting it to drop "next week." Same goes for Halfus boots.. keep waiting for those as they have never dropped once. Thanks for pointing out the body, I never realized I reforged the haste instead of the expertise. And gloves I'll do, I never considered str. Thanks for the tips

    sadly, I prefer looks over functionality lol, so even though its better to use T11 helm, I'll still use body because I hate not being in robe lol

  14. #5694
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    fair enough, I prefer my wings over poison somethingsomethingtoxitron shoulders Tsanga's is a really good offpiece to use too, at the 359 ilvl. You should reforge the hit off gloves into mastery instead of haste as well.

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    I keep hearing about heroic trash drops... though we have yet to see any. Is this true or just a myth? I just hear that the items are listed as having the same ilv as normal trash drops, but are actually 376. A heroic version of Tsanga's would make me very happy lol.

    We haven't killed Halfus yet this week so maybe I'll get something heroic off of him.. he is the druid loot pinata and we are pushing our first Heroic of him. Druid tanking on him is so hax.. I love how our pally and DK had to switch literally every 10-15 seconds, and I can sit there and tank / interrupt him all by myself for well over a minute before needing a BoP.

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    No such thing as heroic trash drops, sadly. The best offpiece at heroic level is typically assumed to be: sark > poison shoulders > gloves > pants > helm I believe. The nice thing about having shoulders as offpiece, is it's pretty easy to get heroic tier chest (halfus) while it's extremely difficult if you get sark + tier shoulders (chogal). That being said, i completely refuse to give my wings up =)

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    I keep hearing about heroic trash drops... though we have yet to see any. Is this true or just a myth? I just hear that the items are listed as having the same ilv as normal trash drops, but are actually 376. A heroic version of Tsanga's would make me very happy lol.
    If only, since blizzard didn't add in heroic trash drops the only DPS caster wand right now is a 359 trash drop...

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    I figured it was bs, but various ppl heard there were heroic trash drops so we have been doing heroic trash just incase. And I'm w/ you Slott... I love druid tier shoulders, they aren't going anywhere (sucks that heroic tier set is an ugly reskin)

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    The bad luck has finally ended past 4 weeks not a single epic weapon has dropped for my warrior with rest of my gear being epic. Just very annoyed having blue weapons, but not any longer

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    Warrior in my guild is so fucking lucky as far as drop goes, we only have 2 plate DPS in the guild, warrior and DK. First week cata came out, we killed magmaw, 2 mace drop, DK and war got 1 each, the next week 2 mace drop again, war got another and we DE the other one, on our first nef kill an asscandy sword drop, DK got it, next week TWO asscandy sword dropped and the warrior got both. It's the exact opposite for bows and crossbows in my guild -.-

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