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  1. #1501
    Ridill
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    They'd be fucking pissed at faf camps then lolololol. These guys here are too used to, oh we fucked up, lets retry, rather than we fucked up, time to farm pops for 8 more hours.
    Y'know, my brother and i were saying the same thing. These pussies couldnt stand 5 minutes in FFXI endgame. I thought i was being beyond generous giving them first crack at it, even though we were ready before them.

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    People just think they're entitled to things. The drama from killing those world spawns back in the day was priceless. I wouldn't want to go back to being called at 4am when they spawned though.

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    I have fond memories of waking up on Wednesday, logging on and rushing for the dragons.

    Almost as fond as the ones of when the fucking frenchies turned up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by avelle View Post
    People just think they're entitled to things. The drama from killing those world spawns back in the day was priceless. I wouldn't want to go back to being called at 4am when they spawned though.
    My friend who plays WoW with me told me back in the days when he used to be in BG WoW, they would turn into mushrooms and kill people fighting the dragon or something and then the other guild would RAGE.


    Oh russta, I think WoW has officially taken over FFXI for me, since I had a dream we were on the same server

  5. #1505
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    Mimiron down, ur too slow Arv/Noobta

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    Chram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik View Post
    My friend who plays WoW with me told me back in the days when he used to be in BG WoW, they would turn into mushrooms and kill people fighting the dragon or something and then the other guild would RAGE.


    Oh russta, I think WoW has officially taken over FFXI for me, since I had a dream we were on the same server
    Sadly, I haven't played on American servers with BG for over a year now but you're Australian, we can make this work!

    And yeah, the line about the frenchies is what I meant. We had some epic encounters with some French-Canadian guild on Azshara (whose name escapes me) over the dragons. Kiel made a video of one such event but I've no idea where it is now.

  7. #1507
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    je me soviens

    and their tier point 5

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    There was actually a Je Me Souviens guild in Detheroc that just suddenly popped up before Wrath hit and I had to ask one of their members if they happened to transfer or reroll from "another" server. I had to ask since I remembered seeing them back in Azshara.

    There was a transfer of a Horde guild from Azshara to Detheroc but I can't recall what guild that was...

    I remember in TBC also grouping for a heroic (Still on Detheroc) with a former member of Letalis (possibly unknown guild??) who claimed that they were #1 in Azshara and had Naxx on farm (yeah ok).

  9. #1509
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    je me souviens was no joke

    r.i.p foxqc best dwarf warrior on all of azshara

    like bebop said fagiron down i got sum gloves 3/5 conqueror rofl


    also i fucking wish to god they had world bosses those were awesome to grief on and shit, it probably would be a blast now with DK in the mix.

  10. #1510
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    Mimiron down way earlier this evening. funnnnn fight.

    also downed Freya quickly. Got myself The Lifebinder which is great, because I was the only person on the fucking planet that never saw a Torch of Holy Fire drop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman View Post
    Y'know, my brother and i were saying the same thing. These pussies couldnt stand 5 minutes in FFXI endgame. I thought i was being beyond generous giving them first crack at it, even though we were ready before them.
    At the same time, most FFXI players would be stuck in Naxx and wouldn't get past Flame Leviathan.

    Last night I finally got into an arena team. My prot pally + guildie blood DK. We went 31-28 or something, finished at 986 and had a matchmaking score in the 1700's range (went up and down between 1700 and 1800). So another night of playing and we might hit 1700 which would make me lol. I was able to finish off both members of the opposing team *3* times after my DK died, shockingly twice the other team had a healer too.

    Final match of the night was against priest/rogue, that combo had been owning us all night, beaten us I think 4 times prior and this was the same team that had just beat us the match before. We stupidly started off with me on the priest and him on the rogue, survived for a minute or so, then DK went down. I went over and got on the rogue, was able to bubble and get a heal off before MD and kept DPSing the rogue. Priest went OOM and I finished off the rogue with 1.2k health left. Priest had no mana to nuke me so I holy lighted, with divine plea and wound poison on me it healed for nothing though, and I quickly ran behind a pillar and bandaged. Priest had to run up to me but I got most of the bandage off. Hit divine plea again, trinketed the fear and spammed cleanse on every SW he put on me. Divine plea > mp5 while casting on a priest it seems, and I finished him off with 5k health left.

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    It was the leader of Letalis who would rage hardcore when we MPKed them at Emalis. Remember when he tried to make a pact with us to split continent spawns and to MPK ally guilds other than them and they'd do the same with Horde guilds?

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    Eaglestrike: Tell your DK that icebound fortitude is his friend. Rogue can't do shit to a DK if they can't stun. The few seconds IF is up should be more than plenty to rip any rogue to pieces.

    As for myself, pugged Ulduar 10man tonight. Only killed flame leviathan and deconstructor, but damn is that place fun. The trash is a fucking challenge, it's amazing. Wiped to Kologorn or w/e. Only got one try in on him though before people were going to bed. Should continue on tonight hopefully. I love that you actually have to think in Ulduar.

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    Yeah, we'll be working on more stuff tonight if we PvP again. I don't think he's PvP'd since 70, so not on his DK at all. And I've never seriously PvP'd, so I'm still just getting used to things.

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    This sums it up quite nicely:

    This is no more artificial then a boss with an enrage timer.

    Instead of limiting the amount of time you fight a boss per attempt, they are limiting the amount of time you have to spend on a boss per week. Identical concept, just slightly grander in scope.

    Quite funny too, that if someone can't kill deconstructor in 6 mins, they "need more dps" or "learn 2 play". But if you can't learn Algalon quick enough, it's an "artificial concept" or "retarded design". Pretty much confirms the level of self-absorbed tortured logic some people are capable of, I guess.

  16. #1516
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    Quote Originally Posted by shargar View Post
    It was the leader of Letalis who would rage hardcore when we MPKed them at Emalis. Remember when he tried to make a pact with us to split continent spawns and to MPK ally guilds other than them and they'd do the same with Horde guilds?
    shargar theres a shargar on mal'ganis IS THAT YOU???? LOL

    kalimdor and eastern kingdoms pact, hahah.

  17. #1517
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dezzimal View Post
    This sums it up quite nicely:

    This is no more artificial then a boss with an enrage timer.

    Instead of limiting the amount of time you fight a boss per attempt, they are limiting the amount of time you have to spend on a boss per week. Identical concept, just slightly grander in scope.

    Quite funny too, that if someone can't kill deconstructor in 6 mins, they "need more dps" or "learn 2 play". But if you can't learn Algalon quick enough, it's an "artificial concept" or "retarded design". Pretty much confirms the level of self-absorbed tortured logic some people are capable of, I guess.
    I'm still undecided if I like the 1hr limit on Algalon or not, but I think that quote is way off base. One is limiting your ability to play the game, while the other isn't. If someone's net dies normally, oh well. You replace them or call the raid and come back the next day/etc. If that person's net dies on Algalon - 'grats, you lose 15-20% of your time for the week best case, worst case they were important to your raid and you lost an entire week.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling it retarded design for the reason people are saying. I kinda like the idea of limiting attempts, but I wish it would have been a specific # of pulls rather than a specific timer, personally. Could leave and come back another day if you wanted to try a different raid comp, or if someone DCs, etc. Could give you a few to stop and talk about your strategy between attempts and adjust what you're doing.

    Anyway, that being said, whomever made said argument is still way off base. Enrage timers are to make sure you aren't sitting there and just ignoring DPS on a fight (healer stacking, letting XT heal for 60% of his healthbar, having STR gemmed hunters). Even my random horde group beat XT before his enrage, and my hunter that is still using lvl 70 items is placing #1 on their meters (not good lvl 70 items either...rings that combined are about equal to the blue ring from heroic CoS). The enrage timers aren't hard, and honestly, if you are hitting them, then your group probably does need to "learn to play", especially since XT's is now raised IIRC.


    As a side note, and this is the wrong threat, but fuck Flame Leviathan. I went to Ulduar-10 on my hunter last night...my gear is so low ilvl, that I get LESS THAN 40% of the hp/dmg of everyone else in my raid when I get in a vehicle on Flame Leviathan. One guy had 1.56mil HP on a Siege Engine, and I had 600k, it was just retarded how penalizing that was. I'm neck and neck with 1-2 others for top damage everywhere else (just depends on the fight/etc), but on Flame Leviathan it's like I can't even compete, any vehicle I drive is just doomed if it gets scratched. Guess the few times I did Naxx10 I shoulda taken rotting caster gear

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    Chram
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    You should see the abortion I wear for that fight to maximize my ilvl. God bless Living Ice Crystals!

    Shit was pretty cash when you got stuck in combat after the fight.

  19. #1519
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    Downed Thorim and Ignis last night, so yay...Freya and Mimiron on Monday. We'll see if my guild can pull off Mimiron.

    Just a quick question, for our Thorim fights he seemed more than happy to target melee with his amplifying chain lightning, which for the first bunch of attempts meant a huge pile of dead melee, often including the tank. Is this happening for everyone? Seems a bit of a cheese mechanic if this is intentional.

    We ended up having to ask some of our melee to stand at range and fondle themselves during the fight, so that we could have 3 clumps of 3 in a KT-style triangle around the boss. Is there another tactic we can employ?

    At least due to this strategy and how melee-heavy we are we ran this fight with 5 tanks, which made the arena segment a lot easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik View Post
    Downed Thorim and Ignis last night, so yay...Freya and Mimiron on Monday. We'll see if my guild can pull off Mimiron.

    Just a quick question, for our Thorim fights he seemed more than happy to target melee with his amplifying chain lightning, which for the first bunch of attempts meant a huge pile of dead melee, often including the tank. Is this happening for everyone? Seems a bit of a cheese mechanic if this is intentional.

    We ended up having to ask some of our melee to stand at range and fondle themselves during the fight, so that we could have 3 clumps of 3 in a KT-style triangle around the boss. Is there another tactic we can employ?

    At least due to this strategy and how melee-heavy we are we ran this fight with 5 tanks, which made the arena segment a lot easier.
    3x3 is really the most melee you can safely put there really, I think it's pretty rare to see a 25man raid with much more than 9 melee.

    That being said, 5 tanks seems like quite a bit of overkill...2 tanks should be able to easily do the arena, and 1 can tank very easily do the hallway...though you can definitely do arena with even 1 if you really want to bring less.

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