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    Quote Originally Posted by ant rite View Post
    Also I'm pretty sure you get the full haste effect wearing Ares' or Sanction.
    I doubt that, given how Rune Axes work and that Rune Chopper shows the same MP pattern. If your MP is 0 at the start of a tick, you don't get the latent that tick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shineko View Post
    Auto-refresh ticks before the costs on rune weapons, was tested long ago with Rune Axe on BST w/ Gaudy
    I've used it a lot myself. Once your initial MP pool is drained, you alternate one tick going from 1->0 MP and +5 HP, then next tick 0->1 MP and no Regen. If auto-refresh were applied first you would get +5 HP every tick and stay at 0 MP, which doesn't happen.

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    just mix etheral to ares body and sanction-> tasty choppa pie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valyana View Post
    I doubt that, given how Rune Axes work and that Rune Chopper shows the same MP pattern. If your MP is 0 at the start of a tick, you don't get the latent that tick.



    I've used it a lot myself. Once your initial MP pool is drained, you alternate one tick going from 1->0 MP and +5 HP, then next tick 0->1 MP and no Regen. If auto-refresh were applied first you would get +5 HP every tick and stay at 0 MP, which doesn't happen.
    Valyana is correct you need it to actually have MP to trigger it. The thing is depending on how much haste you already have it changes how quickly you'll swing whether you're getting 1 or 2 mp per tick. The thing is Ares, Sanction Refresh, Ethereal Earring, and having a decent amount of MP merits can keep you ticking for a long time (especially if you get short breaks between mobs.)

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    Just as a note can get an fully working Rune Chopper 100% without others giving you refresh in Assault, Nyzul & Salvage if you have a Balrahn's Ring + Ares Cuirass + Sanction.

    It seems a weird choice to wear a mage ring on war but I can see it working quite well on all those zones, not even that hard to get cumulus + virga most of the time in Salvage.

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    Get an assault:haste+4% ring and you can eliminate Rune Chopper

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayr View Post
    Perdu, failing that, Maneater/Juggernaut, or failing that... Woody/Maneater.

    Using anything else and you're kidding yourself.
    Did you mean to post this in 2005?

    Maneater/Iron Ram outparses Maneater/Juggernaut, and any half-assed Great Axe setup is gonna beat them both.

    Seriously, Juggernaut is worthless, let it die.

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