Player named Riahna took HQ synth that belonged to her

[Bigalo]

Some people in life argue just for the sake of arguing and i beleive we have found 1 here. She will try and pick something out just to get her attention. Riahne asked me on the 2oth of Oct to make it and I synthed it on the 24th, ok thats 4 days so shoot me if after having to put up with hearing someone as Foolish as you that my day went off by 1.
I'm sure after you got ripped off by 14 mil that you would have just handed over the item knowing u spent 3 years getting the craft to lvl 100 and broke the entire time because of it. If you say yes i would have i would say you're full of shit. Theres always gotta be shit talkers in this world who talk straight out of there asses and you are one of them. I would love for Kat to have the same situation happen to her and to see if she reacts with this calm collective reasoning that she thinks she has. It's easy to be on the sidelines throwing rocks in, but seems kinds cowardly.

[Kyouri]

Asked around, people have said she's a bitch and only care about her own gain in the game. Shady person, I heard people saying her and her BF hopped servers to possibly Remora? Can't confirm, but thats apparently where her BF went to according to a mutual friend. Don't trust her. ~

[Airenn]

Wut?

Actually, she didn't steal anything from the OP. At the time of crafting, there was no agreement other than OP synthing the item for her. This defaults to whatever is crafted is owed to her. It's compeletely her choice to sell the HQ item instead of using it for herself. For the record, I do agree this was dirty on the accused's part since they had a prior arrangement.

Thut

[Bigalo]

could be true, she has not been seen ever since my suspension ended. fishy ha for a person that use to play all the time. Maybe she can go to Kat's server so we can see how maturly she acts after this person screws her or her ls over.

[510Meeze]

Actually, she didn't steal anything from the OP. At the time of crafting, there was no agreement other than OP synthing the item for her.

She the PM's me and said it will be a few days before i get the materials and asked what i charged. i told her nothing but if its a HQ im going to keep it and sell it and ill make her another one immediatly. She said ok.

That looks like an agreement to me. You can argue semantics about making the person repeat the terms before the synth, but the fact is, the person said yes to the terms. Breaking those terms makes her the one in the wrong. It was done outside of FF and the GMs probably can't do anything about it, but that doesn't make the agreement any less valid. The warning is saying this person will renig a deal. The only thing the OP did wrong was not hit enter or use spell check.

[xDantex]

That is exactly the sort of response that's going to make you look like the bad guy. That is an awful, awful attitude to have. GMs aren't volunteers. They're making a living doing this. By your reasoning, anyone with a job that happens to be inconvenient to you deserves a hard time. Let's see this in a quick scenario.

You work at McDonalds. I come to you and order a Double Quarter-Pounder meal, no pickles. I'm allergic to pickles. You put them on accidentally. You give the burger to me, I open it up, and see the pickles. I ask you to remake the burger, since I'm allergic to pickles. You tell me your manager won't allow you to remake it, because of food costs. Now, I can be mature about this, simply refuse to pay, and leave. But instead, I knock the napkin holder off the counter, and throw my Coke into the kitchen before I leave. Might as well make it more difficult for you, either way I wasn't gonna have my burger.

Does that seem fair?

I'm not saying that you didn't get shafted on the deal, and that's unfortunate. But acting like you did only got you suspended, and made you look childish. Additionally, it made someone take just a moment longer to do their job, because you had to act out. It was a lose-lose situation.

Exactly. Should have just handed the NQ synth over to the GM and then asked him to check his logs.

[Bigalo]

I couldn't, I was missing oxblood because no one sells them in the AH being they sell to an NPC at same price. I grabbed 2 ls members to do the Kclub run for the oxblood and would have synthed it after the very first run. The Gm jailed me as i stood on top of the portal to trade the Orb. I also PM's her and said i will have the harness to you in less than an hour, and i will give you 500k for the time.

[Thorny]

I couldn't, I was missing oxblood because no one sells them in the AH being they sell to an NPC at same price. I grabbed 2 ls members to do the Kclub run for the oxblood and would have synthed it after the very first run. The Gm jailed me as i stood on top of the portal to trade the Orb.

That's rather relevant information you omitted earlier.

[[Cookies]]

Unless there's proof that they both had an agreement beforehand, then Riahna has done nothing wrong.

[Tsukasaz]

If you want people to be careful of her (since she probably changed her name on server transfer) you should add to the OP her race and face, 75 jobs etc..

[Katarzyna]

That's rather relevant information you omitted earlier.

^ This.

And also, wasn't your original agreement that you would craft her another right after you crafted the HQ? I don't think going to farm really counts as "right after." You should've been prepared in the event you might craft an HQ.

Bigalo, the more and more you argue, omit information then magically add it later, change information, the less I believe you. Submit screenshots next time.

Go ahead and keep arguing though. I would think someone who spent the time and gil would be more responsible with their craft, but obviously, with you, that's not the case. You just want us to believe you because *gasp* you have a level 100 craft! Despite the fact she did some shady shit and slimed her way into getting an HQ doesn't abstain you either. Grow the fuck up and take some responsibility. You, in reality, brought this upon yourself. FFXI has no contracts you can sign, and even in real life verbal contracts are flimsy at best.

And what, dare I ask, would you do on the extremely off chance you crafted yet another HQ? I know the statistics of that are very thin, but still possible. Would you have kept that as well and make her wait longer while you farm for materials? (Which I might point out, time to farm materials wasn't part of the original agreement you posted)

[hagun]

Why did the OP felt it important for this Riahna to be present during the synthesis? OP could've made the damn thing on his own time and this would've been avoided.

Sadly, these things tend to be one sided. We'll never hear Raihna's side of the story.

[zantes]

Wut?

I love when people quote things out of context. As Airenn pointed out, what I said makes sense when you read the whole thing.

[TotemPole]

So what did we all learn?

1. The OP assumed people have a certain level of ethics. (mistake)
2. The Cunt he made the harness for should be blackballed.
3. 75% of the asses that post ramble on about Jack Shit. (me included).
4. Nobody reads all of Katarzyna's comments (we lose interest about 4 words into it.)

This thread should hve been about 3 posts long then locked.

[Izzy]

Outside of the OP's obvious dumbass move of throwing a fucking temper tantrum, fuck that girl that called the GM. I always discuss crafting terms with strangers IMMEDIATELY BEFORE the synth so the GM has something to look back on if someone wants to be a huge jew.

[johnboy]

I NEVER craft possible high priced shit like cursed items using someone elses materials, if someone asks me to craft something, i buy the mats, i give a nq, if it hqs (which it has before) there is no argument.

Also had someone ask me to make them a bunch of hq staves the otherday... then said so they can sell and profit from it, what makes people think this sort of shit is ok i dont know.

Trust noone basically.

[S N K]

Actually, she didn't steal anything from the OP. At the time of crafting, there was no agreement other than OP synthing the item for her. This defaults to whatever is crafted is owed to her. It's compeletely her choice to sell the HQ item instead of using it for herself. For the record, I do agree this was dirty on the accused's part since they had a prior arrangement.

Doesn't change the fact that it was a dick move. She more or less used his craft to make money and he got nothing out of it.

Spend time and an assload of gil into working on a craft then get back to me when someone pulls this monkey shit on you. I don't agree with getting pissed & tossing the item but the rest of the shit I've no arguements with.

[Kimkytaru]

What I learned in this thread :

- There is a lot of player with no ethics in this forum
- Never trust someone on a past agreement
- Gm are ass (not suprising since it's in the lign of everything SE makes for players, and dont tell me that the gm couldn't get the log from 4 days ago, I'm pretty sure logs are saved, he admit it himslef he didnt want to go further, he was just lazy and people like GM shouldnt be lazy, but again, seeing the way SE is taking care of his customer it's not surprising at all).

[zantes]

Doesn't change the fact that it was a dick move. She more or less used his craft to make money and he got nothing out of it.

Spend time and an assload of gil into working on a craft then get back to me when someone pulls this monkey shit on you. I don't agree with getting pissed & tossing the item but the rest of the shit I've no arguements with.

I agree with you and everyone else that the person made a dick move. Not once did I condone her actions.

While I don't have a craft to 100 yet, my Clothcraft is only 93, I have still spent a lot of time and money on raising it. And this situation won't ever happen to me since I will make sure I have the agreement set to my satisfaction before I synth any item for someone.

[Octavious]

Did she leave you her umbrella?

You've made my week sir, <3 you long time.