Plot to Kill Obama Uncovered, Feds Say

[Churchill]

Sorry, killing Obama would not make him a martyr. That is such an absurd statement.

[ByeByeTasai]

Sorry, killing Obama would not make him a martyr. That is such an absurd statement.

Have you seen how many more people show up to Obama rallies then McCain rallies? Or how many people are volunteering and supporting Obama? If a plan like this were to follow through I bet we would see much more then rioting in the streets. This would make him a Martyr and it would possibly bring the US to a Civil War, if only on a small scale or cold at first.

[Titanss]

Makes me proud I'm from TN and every time I get on vent people think I'm retarded because of my accent is always fun too.

[ZarakiKujata]

Sorry, killing Obama would not make him a martyr. That is such an absurd statement.

He would become martyr like because look at the status he has achieved amongst college kids and black people. A lot of conservatives are already bitching about the cult following he has, imagine a cult following with a mythical leader that was killed for his beliefs. He may not become lionized immediately but it will happen. What will happen immediately is violent riots the likes of which have not been seen for a long time. With Obama gone, the black agents of fear and intolerance (Rev Wright, Farrakhan etc) will quickly instigate a disillusioned black mass to rioting, and college students will follow suit which will likely result in Kent State in the 1970s to a much larger degree.

I think either way this election is likely to get violent with the shit McCain/Palin are doing to their supporters, but college students/black people are alot more integral in doing shit jobs that keep our economy moving then ignorant rednecks who live in bumfuck middle of nowhere, so as Chris Rock is joking already, any shit you got planned for November 5th that involves black people, forget about it, its not happening. So the ramifications to this country of the aftereffects of Obama getting shot are probably not what these fucktards want.

[Talus]

I wonder how many "attempts" the secret service or FBI stop on a weekly basis.

Some are stopped before they're even started, but I am pretty sure they review thousands of threats a week, and action's taken on the more credible ones... we don't even know the half of it.

[Defconnexion]

Wait a minute... Obama is Jewish?

[Moridam]

I don't understand skin heads.

Are their beliefs tied into their religion, if so, is it a form of christianity?
If it is christianity, what version are they reading where it puts white man above all instead of equals with their fellow man?
Are they racist towards natives of the countries? Do they just not want ethnics living in the land they claim? It's kind of hypocritical to want to send out ethnics when they're not even natives, whites are from europe.

there are a lot of different groups out there, many of which use religious angles to justify or rationalize their positions. i think the typical argument from groups that align themselves with christianity is something along the lines of europeans being the true descendants of god's chosen people.

i don't think they're around anymore, but up until the earlier years of this decade, there were also groups like the world church of the creator who came up with their own religious system which followed from existing supremacist/separatist ideologies.

i can't think of any offhand, but there are plenty of groups out there that aren't necessarily religious in nature.

in practical terms, most of it is just flimsy justification to prop up their beliefs. i'm going to radically oversimplify here and say that in the end, most just hate them some blacks/jews/etc., and go to great lengths to come up with arguments to attempt to legitimize their stance. there is an abundance of paranoia, flawed reasoning and conspiratorial accusations.

if you want to get a better idea of how a lot of these people/groups think and operate and believe, spend a little time browsing forums like stormfront or vnn. the responses to stories like this one in particular give a very nice summary.

[Jotaru]

There was a famous movie; I forget the title, was about a guy that was a skinhead and had a son that grew up a skinhead. The dad got tossed into prison and raped, then mended his ways. Was based on a true story...wish i could remember the name. If someone knows the movie title i strongly suggest you watch it; gives a good insight on the pure closeminded hatred going through these people's minds.

Yeah, American History X - its one of my favorite movies of all time. I just saw Crash the other day, and that as well was pretty awesome, in my opinion.

[Dimmauk]

Sorry, killing Obama would not make him a martyr. That is such an absurd statement.

Are you kidding? His face is already being carved into the Black Mount Rushmore. Imagine if he was killed in a hate crime? He would be this generation's Martin Luther King Jr.

[Andarvi]

Are you kidding? His face is already being carved into the Black Mount Rushmore. Imagine if he was killed in a hate crime? He would be this generation's Martin Luther King Jr.

Yup. Seeing how far Obama is ahead in the polls reflecting his popularity, if he were killed before the election, and unfortunately during his term if he gets there, its going to be a huge blow to advancement of race relations in this country. It would take many decades, if ever, for it to be mended.

[TacoTaru]

I don't understand skin heads.

Are their beliefs tied into their religion, if so, is it a form of christianity?
If it is christianity, what version are they reading where it puts white man above all instead of equals with their fellow man?
Are they racist towards natives of the countries? Do they just not want ethnics living in the land they claim? It's kind of hypocritical to want to send out ethnics when they're not even natives, whites are from europe.

It's important to note that skinhead and racist are not one in the same. Calling all skinheads racist would be like calling all Arabs terrorist.

Skinhead in itself is a subculture that started in the UK. There are racist skinheads but by no means would I consider it a subculture comprise of a majority of racist. Most skinheads you talk to that are a apart of the culture will refr to racist skinheads as boneheads. If you want to know more about skinhead culture without having to read much wiki has a decent article on it.

[Churchill]

Have you seen how many more people show up to Obama rallies then McCain rallies? Or how many people are volunteering and supporting Obama? If a plan like this were to follow through I bet we would see much more then rioting in the streets. This would make him a Martyr and it would possibly bring the US to a Civil War, if only on a small scale or cold at first.

I'm really at odds for words on this one.

To the more sane responders: Yes, he'd be an icon to some people because of the circumstances of such a death, and because of the accomplishments of his life. That's isn't necessarily a martyr and in this case it would carry none of the other connotations we attach to the word "martyr" in the English language.

The US would go into a Civil War for the death of another black dude but the transgressions of the government over the last 80 years were okay? I don't think America's wake up call would come from this shit lol.

[Plow]

I'm really at odds for words on this one.

To the more sane responders: Yes, he'd be an icon to some people because of the circumstances of such a death, and because of the accomplishments of his life. That's isn't necessarily a martyr and in this case it would carry none of the other connotations we attach to the word "martyr" in the English language.

The US would go into a Civil War for the death of another black dude but the transgressions of the government over the last 80 years were okay? I don't think America's wake up call would come from this shit lol.

Civil War is lulzy but I wouldn't be surprised at all by riots in LA, Detroit, etc when something bad happens to him, or if he loses and there's controversy about the voting.

[gandorf]

This may come as a shock to some of you but rednecks are really this dumb. In 500yrs when they create a machine that can send all the knowledge you need to know to your brain the rednecks will still be dumb as shit. They will all still be living in trailers when hurricanes come through also.

As for Obama being a martyr I'm pretty sure a martyr is someone who dies for a religious belief or sacrifice. Like a terrorist would consider themselves a martyr.

[Plow]

This may come as a shock to some of you but rednecks are really this dumb. In 500yrs when they create a machine that can send all the knowledge you need to know to your brain the rednecks will still be dumb as shit. They will all still be living in trailers when hurricanes come through also.

As for Obama being a martyr I'm pretty sure a martyr is someone who dies for a religious belief or sacrifice. Like a terrorist would consider themselves a martyr.

oh the ironing

the trailer park joke is about tornadoes

and a martyr is someone that dies or gets jailed or whatever for a "cause", pretty much any cause that people stand behind

[Septimus]

I'm really at odds for words on this one.

To the more sane responders: Yes, he'd be an icon to some people because of the circumstances of such a death, and because of the accomplishments of his life. That's isn't necessarily a martyr and in this case it would carry none of the other connotations we attach to the word "martyr" in the English language.

The US would go into a Civil War for the death of another black dude but the transgressions of the government over the last 80 years were okay? I don't think America's wake up call would come from this shit lol.

A Civil War is a bit of an overstatement, but if you think that there wouldn't be violence were Obama killed before the election (or even after) you live in a fantasy land. "The US would go into a Civil War for the death of another black dude but the transgressions of the government over the last 80 years were okay?" Have you ever heard the term "the straw that broke the camel's back"? You really think that there would not be huge repercussions from the first African-American Presidential nominee being assassinated?

I think most importantly, why I am even trying to get a reasonable discourse from someone who is so obviously trolling and instigating fear?

[Shuvo]

The US would go into a Civil War for the death of another black dude but the transgressions of the government over the last 80 years were okay? I don't think America's wake up call would come from this shit lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King

[Churchill]

I'm just baffled someone could logically make a statement like "Obama dead = Civil War".

[0ni0n]

I'm just baffled someone could logically make a statement like "Obama dead = Civil War".

Perhaps not a civil war, but most definitely riots and protests of epic proportion.

[Day]

I'm just baffled someone could logically make a statement like "Obama dead = Civil War".

I can't believe you are baffled. Really? In all your infinite wisdom, something baffles you?