Homam Corazza Triple Attack rate

[Raen Ryong]

How is 1 vs 2.5% a gigantic deal like you're making it out to be? I am genuinely curious because you are making it sound like that extra 1.5% gives you a blowjob.

It's because it's whether it outpowers the haubyberk over time, and 1.5% is 3 extra hits out of every 100 (ignoring the fact double attack may kill some of those) which depending on x hit build is half a WS. Not gamebreakingly huge, certainly, but the game is designed around changing many smaller things to bring out a bigger difference.

Oh, and apologies to you, Massimo. I misread.

[Seraph]

How is 1 vs 2.5% a gigantic deal like you're making it out to be? I am genuinely curious because you are making it sound like that extra 1.5% gives you a blowjob.

You of all people should appreciate 1.5% better overall damage over time and 1.5% more ePeen damage screenshots. Come on now...

[Skeelo]

1% of the time, it works everytime

[isladar]

I wear it because it's pretty

This is the only reason necessary.

I've found a decided increase over that reported 1% by .dat-swapping my hauby +1 to Homam.

[Miraun]

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8707/ffxi361ap7.jpg

If the 2.5% is actually 1%, With these numbers, that would reduce # of swings down by 45. With 95% ACC, we'll say that reduces hits by 44

With an 11% crit rate, that's approximately 5 crits, and 39 normal hits (rounded)
At the values posted of a 200 normal melee hit, and 260 crit rate
7800 from normal
1300 from crits
=9100 damage.

Additionally, since there are 39 hits, and this is a 6 hit setup, that results in 6.5 less WS.
6.5*1000 = 6500.

=15600 LESS damage.

This brings total damage on Homam down to 385701.

This puts it below Askar.

That's why it's significant.

[Tulun]

I'd be curious to see how Haub + Adaman haub compares in that list.

[Starr]

so uh is it 1% or 2.5%?

[Lampoon]

Why don't you have FE people do the math for you?

[Alistaire]

1% from my experience. You can easily do a test. Using algol and homam body together and also wear brutal. Simply from eyeballing you should see equal amount of TA and DA, or slightly more TA. From my experience, it is not the case as I always DA more.

Eyeballing is bad.

[Khajit]

Simpler test. have a lv 75 thf attack some random mob that can be easily held with a huge amount of hp for a set amount of time.
on one test have the thf wear relic feet(triple attack+1).
on the other, have them wear homam Corazza.
Compare the amount of attacks done in that timeframe.
Rinse and repeat until youre sure that the amount of attack rounds done wasnt the same overall.

[Starr]

Why don't you have FE people do the math for you?

Who/what is FE?

[Omnipotent]

Who/what is FE?

Friendly Elephant

[ninjafox]

Simpler test. have a lv 75 thf attack some random mob that can be easily held with a huge amount of hp for a set amount of time.
on one test have the thf wear relic feet(triple attack+1).
on the other, have them wear homam Corazza.
Compare the amount of attacks done in that timeframe.
Rinse and repeat until youre sure that the amount of attack rounds done wasnt the same overall.

Wouldn't this be a bad test since thief has innate triple attack? I remember when Max was testing double attacking with RR, he found the test was skewed(sp?) cuz of war innate double attack trait.

[Khajit]

That is quite possible but it also depends on if you can find anything with a large enough hp pool(or inate autoregen) with no stun/para/terror moves to test this out on. alternatively you could have 2 thieves with the same merits/gear engage at the same time and see who has the most attacks eventually.

The drawback is that thf's inate triple attack makes it harder to nail down. The advantage is that you have a control to compare to (relic feet or simply altering triple attack merits).

[tonystigma]

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2 DRKs, one wearing the Corazza, one without, no double attack otherwise (gear, sub, etc), kill 100 enemies. Simple, simple simple.

[Xanthu]

Wouldn't this be a bad test since thief has innate triple attack? I remember when Max was testing double attacking with RR, he found the test was skewed(sp?) cuz of war innate double attack trait.

The point is AF2 shoes have +1 triple attack. Therefore attack numbers near-equal means body is 1%.

I'm curious as to where the 2.5% number ever came from. We know the 1% source, but I don't know the other.

[Thorny]

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2 DRKs, one wearing the Corazza, one without, no double attack otherwise (gear, sub, etc), kill 100 enemies. Simple, simple simple.

Aside from how ridiculous your margin of error would be..

[Kroot]

Get a job with no double or triple trait to equip a 1 dmg weapon in which he/she has 0 skill.
Attack a Ul'hpemde while parsing with K-Parser for a hour+ and see the triple attack percentage using extra attacks feature.

[Deadgye]

I'm curious as to where the 2.5% number ever came from. We know the 1% source, but I don't know the other.

Guess I'll go see if I can find the old alla thread. ~.~

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.h...;num=42;page=1 Horrid sample size as you can see, maybe DV has some links saved somewhere on more extensive tests, but this was the first one that I remember being done.

[Starr]

That sample is too small and sucky, someone please do a large one on DRK/SAM no da or ta gear