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  1. #21
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    Yea, it does. I always tell drks to use gorget for ws instead of justice torque. 5 str and 10 attack isn't going to give you what 0.1 ftp is going to give you believe it or not.

    Also not to mention that you lose some of the acc as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Yea, it does. I always tell drks to use gorget for ws instead of justice torque. 5 str and 10 attack isn't going to give you what 0.1 ftp is going to give you believe it or not.
    That was my reasoning as well, especially given that Guillotine has a naturally gimped fTP of 0.875. Using Gorget is ~11% increase in base DMG on that first hit. Go farm some organs!

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    It would depend on the mob being fought? The more defensive the mob being fought, the more the str/attack(in particular) is going to help push up the damage of the flagging hits... though multihits tend to be bad in such situations anyway.

    As for on most stuff... hmm. 5STR is 1, maybe 2 WSC if lucky... also 1, maybe 2 fSTR and 10atk is a decent chunk. Still... I've been using JT for ages now on Guillo due mainly to not wanting to farm more goddamn organs, and have reasoned it should be fairly close at the very least. Depends on the situation in question I guess, I'll have to think about it some more...

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    On hnm where att/str matter more due to level correlation, it is probably closer. However, due to the fact that any weapon's first hit or a single hit ws as a matter of fact will have I say at least 20% higher hit rate than the rest of the hits, and since you can't rely to connect all hits on HNM, adding a 0.1 ftp on that first hit that you know you will most likely connect is a good thing. Not to mention 3 accuracy helps a little to connect the rest of your hits too.

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    To be honest, in the end the difference is too small to even bother. It is just that getting the gorget is by far easier than to get a justice torque for most ppl, and in theory it is better. Tho you do save yourself a equip swap (not like it matters now a day with windower macro)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin View Post
    The answer:

    Aside from Justice and Love torques, the gorgets will always be best. They add the acc of the chram and add a bit of damage to the first hit.
    my parse result for penta anyways put gorget over love, so I am using it over love for drakesbane now, unless someone can support otherwise and I just shadow on rana cause I just use my kasha/acc set for it out of lazyness.

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    love(if your thf or drg?) > gorget > other neck piece for any WS i guess

    only exception is i use justice torque on tachi: rana(lazy to farm 2 yovra and i dont think its worth it to take up -1 inv)

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