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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoobernut View Post
    I am surprised no one has mentioned the fact that this man was breaking into her house for a second time in a week, he had raped her only 2 or 3 days before and was back for more.
    reminded me of
    http://www.theangrypuppy.com/wp-cont...o_futurama.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woozie View Post
    I think the difference here is that the woman was definitely about to be physical assaulted and her life may have even been at stake. If he was just coming to steal, there's a chance she could have gotten jailed, depending on how (and where) things happened. There have been similar cases here in the U.S.

    The differentiation stated here is right. In the US if someone was stealing a person's property and a person used deadly force to defend their property, that person using the force would be in jail as well.

    A lot of states go by the theory that "your home is your castle". If someone breaks into your house, and you objectively (any person looking at the situation could reasonably see that you were justified in believing at the time you were in danger) and subjectively (you at the time honestly could reasonably believe that your life was in danger) reasonably believe that your life is in danger you have the right to blow them away.

    That being said, you can not use deadly force to protect property. It is not valuable enough. If you use deadly force to protect property and you kill someone you will likely be charged with manslaughter or a lesser degree of murder.

    You are also liable in civil court for any injuries that you make to them if you don't kill them. If you kill them you are likely able to be held liable to his estate for damages (wrongful death that sort of stuff). Best bet there would be to ask for a jury trial and get the jury to sympathize with you and hope that the judge doesn't grant a motion by the estate saying that the jury was swayed by emotion and the law and facts says that the estate should win.


    These laws depend on the state of course, but that is the general way of looking at it among the states.

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    Who would be stupid enough to go back to rape a woman a 2nd time?

    *Looks at picture*

    Ah, makes sense now.

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    Cause he's black right! =D

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    Must've been some good poon

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    Quote Originally Posted by godsentdeath View Post
    The differentiation stated here is right. In the US if someone was stealing a person's property and a person used deadly force to defend their property, that person using the force would be in jail as well.

    A lot of states go by the theory that "your home is your castle". If someone breaks into your house, and you objectively (any person looking at the situation could reasonably see that you were justified in believing at the time you were in danger) and subjectively (you at the time honestly could reasonably believe that your life was in danger) reasonably believe that your life is in danger you have the right to blow them away.

    That being said, you can not use deadly force to protect property. It is not valuable enough. If you use deadly force to protect property and you kill someone you will likely be charged with manslaughter or a lesser degree of murder.

    You are also liable in civil court for any injuries that you make to them if you don't kill them. If you kill them you are likely able to be held liable to his estate for damages (wrongful death that sort of stuff). Best bet there would be to ask for a jury trial and get the jury to sympathize with you and hope that the judge doesn't grant a motion by the estate saying that the jury was swayed by emotion and the law and facts says that the estate should win.


    These laws depend on the state of course, but that is the general way of looking at it among the states.
    FUCK YEAH TEXAS! CASTLE DOCTRINE!

    /redneck

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    I like his last name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzor View Post
    I like his last name.
    I noticed that as well lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis View Post
    I heard one where a burglar (hamburglar most likely) was breaking into someone's house through the roof. He fell through the ceiling somehow and landed on the kitchen counter. Ended up suing the owners via some legal tomfoolery and I *think* he won.

    Batman would not be amused.
    Sounds like a movie quote from Liar Liar.

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    I think if you have a sign that says no trespassing on your house and that trespassers will be shot aren't you allowed to kill them? or at least shoot em?

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    Depends on if you have the sign posted next to where the criminal broke in, and if it was well-lit enough to see. It's probably best to put a sign at each possible entry point, including on the roof, and put a little light on each one so it can be easily seen.

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    I remember a story of some guy breaking into someones house. He smashes the window cuts himself on the broken window and sues the owners and he won. You can literally sue people for anything these days.

    This guy had to be the worse criminal ever. Not only is the lady he just raped a week ago gonna be paranoid she will most likely be armed and ready for your ass if you come back. She deserves a medal for getting rid of this piece of shit. He was already a registered sex offender so no telling how many others he had raped.

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    Not always the case. As deplorable as 99% of sex offenders are, and more than likely this guy, a person can be registered as a sex offender for sleeping with an underage person who lies and claims they are of age. If they get caught or reported of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davricle View Post
    Not always the case. As deplorable as 99% of sex offenders are, and more than likely this guy, a person can be registered as a sex offender for sleeping with an underage person who lies and claims they are of age. If they get caught or reported of course.
    Can also be put on a a registered sex offender list for indecent exposure. I.e. if you get drunk and piss in a park and get caught, bam your life is ruined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drex View Post
    Must've been some good poon
    The 57-year-old woman shot Ronnie W. Preyer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuvo View Post
    Can also be put on a a registered sex offender list for indecent exposure. I.e. if you get drunk and piss in a park and get caught, bam your life is ruined.
    Don't forget about taking naked pictures of yourself. Or keeping the naked pictures someone sends you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saithorx View Post
    Sounds like a movie quote from Liar Liar.
    Beat me to it.

    Also, this guy got exactly what he deserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LinktheDeme View Post
    I think if you have a sign that says no trespassing on your house and that trespassers will be shot aren't you allowed to kill them? or at least shoot em?
    Depends on the state, some require it. Others allow you to kill them if they enter your house and you reasonably believe that your life is in danger.

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