Version Update News 11/4

[Seraphus]

While we're talking about realism, I'd like to take this opportunity to remind you that we ARE dealing with SquareENIX here.

Hell by their logic, Wafik, I could shoot you in the face point blank with a 12-gauge and it'd do less damage to you than being shot from 30 feet away.

Hell that actually got me thinking... while we're on the topic of realism, shouldn't different kinds of armor "realistically" give heightened resistance against certain types of damage? I mean don't get me wrong, I just don't think a mere arrow can penetrate steel, for example.

[Toksyuryel]

This was my idea for a craftable rainbow/prism staff, and function as a "better" staff in that the NQ has the HQ stats and the HQ has even better stats, however it would be extremely expensive and the HQ version would be extremely rare, so the market for individual staves would remain intact (though price may increase due to increased conflict over materials). Creating these items would also involve an abjuration system, further increasing the rarity. I also threw in an upgrade for the elemental rings as well, using the same system.

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(Smithing 102, Goldsmithing 60)
* Fire Crystal
Fire Ore
Ice Ore
Thunder Ore
Wind Ore
Earth Ore
Water Ore
Light Ore
Dark Ore
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Cursed Ore [A rare ore infused with prismatic energy. Unfortunately, it is cursed, and cannot be used for anything.]

Prism Ore [Ore infused with prismatic energy.]

(Goldsmithing 102)
* Wind Crystal
Prism Ore
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Cursed Bead [A masterfully carved bead containing prismatic energy. Unfortunately, it is cursed, and cannot be used for anything.]

Prismatic Bead [A bead carved from Prism Ore. It contains prismatic energy.]

(Woodworking 108, Goldsmithing 60)
* Wind Crystal
* Wood Purification
* Wood Ensorcelment
Prismatic Bead
Bloodwood Lumber
Jacaranda Lumber
Divine Lumber
Scintillant Ingot
Imperial Wootz Ingot
Photoanima x2
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Cursed Staff [This legendary staff possesses such incredible power the gods themselves saw fit to curse it so none could ever weild it against them.]
Cursed Staff -1 [This staff of legend holds such indescribable power the gods themselves fear it, and they cursed it may none ever stand against them with it.]

Rainbow Staff (rare) (EX)
[Staff] Lv75 All Jobs
DMG:35 Delay:356
STR+5 DEX+5 VIT+5 AGI+5 INT+5 MND+5 CHR+5
Fire+20 Lightning+20 Earth+20 Wind+20 Ice+20 Water+20 Light+20 Dark+20
Attack+10 Ranged Attack+10 Evasion+10
Critical Hit Rate+15%
Physical Damage Taken-20%
Elemental Magic Skill+10
Divine Magic Skill+10
Cure Potency+10%
MP Recovered While Healing+10
Additional Effect: Prismatic Damage
Hidden effect: Magic Damage+15%
Hidden effect: Magic Accuracy+15%
Hidden effect: Charm Success Rate+15%
Hidden effect: Avatar Perpetuation Cost-3

Prism Staff (rare) (EX)
[Staff] Lv75 All Jobs
DMG:40 Delay:346
STR+6 DEX+6 VIT+6 AGI+6 INT+6 MND+6 CHR+6
Fire+25 Lightning+25 Earth+25 Wind+25 Ice+25 Water+25 Light+25 Dark+25
Attack+15 Ranged Attack+15 Evasion+15
Critical Hit Rate+20%
Physical Damage Taken-25%
Elemental Magic Skill+15
Divine Magic Skill+15
Cure Potency+15%
MP Recovered While Healing+15
Additional Effect: Prismatic Damage
Hidden effect: Magic Damage+20%
Hidden effect: Magic Accuracy+20%
Hidden effect: Charm Success Rate+20%
Hidden effect: Avatar Perpetuation Cost-4

(Goldsmithing 108 )
* Earth Crystal
* Gold Purification
* Gold Ensorcelment
Prismatic Bead
Shining Ring
Photoanima x6
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Cursed Ring [This legendary ring possesses such incredible power the gods themselves saw fit to curse it so none could ever weild it against them.]
Cursed Ring -1 [This ring of legend holds such indescribable power the gods themselves fear it, and so they cursed it may none ever stand against them with it.]

Rainbow Ring (rare) (EX)
[Ring] Lv75 All Jobs
DEF:0
STR+5 DEX+5 VIT+5 AGI+5 INT+5 MND+5 CHR+5 HP+20 MP+20

Prism Ring (rare) (EX)
[Ring] Lv75 All Jobs
DEF:0
STR+6 DEX+6 VIT+6 AGI+6 INT+6 MND+6 CHR+6 HP+25 MP+25

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This will never happen. But it'd be pretty cool if it did

[Belgaer]

Problem is, if they made resist traits and MDB more effective, it would make aspir-type spells nearly useless, since you'd just get fully resisted on mage mobs (except I guess BLM ones, but they have high INT.). :/

Any boost that isn't a JA or gear, the mob receives as well. Take, for example, the 2hander update. Spiders are THFs with 2handed weapons. Now EP spiders score massive 300+ DMG critical hits and can hit you with a 700 DMG sickle slash.

I don't think you really want mobs to have increased MDB, guys. That'll just make casting on mage mobs useless.

Though, I don't see any reason not to increase the effects of resist traits, as the mobs pretty much have a full immunity unless you're 20 levels above them anyway.

As for killer effects, I love that idea. Something like Correlation on top of intimidating. BLU could really take advantage of that though. But maybe that would be a good thing. BST sure would get a needed boost.

[Oblongs]

Horrible idea bro. When you change a game you should be trying to improve it, not replace concepts for the hell of it. If anything, high level boss monsters or monsters featured in capped content need to have more focused weaknesses and strengths against elements.

Is that not what he was getting at? Make all spells equal in cost and damage, so that focus turns to elemental strengths/weaknesses instead of just throwing Blizzard/Thunder at everything. It would be understood that if that happened, mobs' weaknesses to elements would have to be looked at to acommodate the new idea.

I think his idea would work out quite nicely as long as, like Kyreth mentioned, damage increased each time you get a new element for that tier.

[Joee]

y the hell would they change spell that would be dumb as hell

[Charismatic]

EDIT: WHOOPS forgot there was another page

[Faithe]

Horrible idea bro. When you change a game you should be trying to improve it, not replace concepts for the hell of it. If anything, high level boss monsters or monsters featured in capped content need to have more focused weaknesses and strengths against elements.

You need to play some other games to know what is good and bad. FFXI is okay on the concept. I'm going to give it 4 out of 10. Ragnarok Online had the BEST elemental resist/property setup. For a wizard, you need to know your elemental shit or you ain't going to survive.

Like Lordwafik said it is stupid that water does crap to Tiamat who is fire based. FFXI is about about Blizzard and Thunder. None of the other nuke spells are used. If you have high enough enfeebling and macc, blizzard and thunder will ALWAYS out nuke anything else and that is just stupid.

[Corrderio]

This was my idea for a craftable rainbow/prism staff, and function as a "better" staff in that the NQ has the HQ stats and the HQ has even better stats, however it would be extremely expensive and the HQ version would be extremely rare, so the market for individual staves would remain intact (though price may increase due to increased conflict over materials). Creating these items would also involve an abjuration system, further increasing the rarity. I also threw in an upgrade for the elemental rings as well, using the same system.

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(Smithing 102, Goldsmithing 60)
* Fire Crystal
Fire Ore
Ice Ore
Thunder Ore
Wind Ore
Earth Ore
Water Ore
Light Ore
Dark Ore
--------------
Cursed Ore [A rare ore infused with prismatic energy. Unfortunately, it is cursed, and cannot be used for anything.]

Prism Ore [Ore infused with prismatic energy.]

(Goldsmithing 102)
* Wind Crystal
Prism Ore
--------------
Cursed Bead [A masterfully carved bead containing prismatic energy. Unfortunately, it is cursed, and cannot be used for anything.]

Prismatic Bead [A bead carved from Prism Ore. It contains prismatic energy.]

(Woodworking 108, Goldsmithing 60)
* Wind Crystal
* Wood Purification
* Wood Ensorcelment
Prismatic Bead
Bloodwood Lumber
Jacaranda Lumber
Divine Lumber
Scintillant Ingot
Imperial Wootz Ingot
Photoanima x2
--------------------
Cursed Staff [This legendary staff possesses such incredible power the gods themselves saw fit to curse it so none could ever weild it against them.]
Cursed Staff -1 [This staff of legend holds such indescribable power the gods themselves fear it, and they cursed it may none ever stand against them with it.]

Rainbow Staff (rare) (EX)
[Staff] Lv75 All Jobs
DMG:35 Delay:356
STR+5 DEX+5 VIT+5 AGI+5 INT+5 MND+5 CHR+5
Fire+20 Lightning+20 Earth+20 Wind+20 Ice+20 Water+20 Light+20 Dark+20
Attack+10 Ranged Attack+10 Evasion+10
Critical Hit Rate+15%
Physical Damage Taken-20%
Elemental Magic Skill+10
Divine Magic Skill+10
Cure Potency+10%
MP Recovered While Healing+10
Additional Effect: Prismatic Damage
Hidden effect: Magic Damage+15%
Hidden effect: Magic Accuracy+15%
Hidden effect: Charm Success Rate+15%
Hidden effect: Avatar Perpetuation Cost-3

Prism Staff (rare) (EX)
[Staff] Lv75 All Jobs
DMG:40 Delay:346
STR+6 DEX+6 VIT+6 AGI+6 INT+6 MND+6 CHR+6
Fire+25 Lightning+25 Earth+25 Wind+25 Ice+25 Water+25 Light+25 Dark+25
Attack+15 Ranged Attack+15 Evasion+15
Critical Hit Rate+20%
Physical Damage Taken-25%
Elemental Magic Skill+15
Divine Magic Skill+15
Cure Potency+15%
MP Recovered While Healing+15
Additional Effect: Prismatic Damage
Hidden effect: Magic Damage+20%
Hidden effect: Magic Accuracy+20%
Hidden effect: Charm Success Rate+20%
Hidden effect: Avatar Perpetuation Cost-4

(Goldsmithing 108 )
* Earth Crystal
* Gold Purification
* Gold Ensorcelment
Prismatic Bead
Shining Ring
Photoanima x6
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Cursed Ring [This legendary ring possesses such incredible power the gods themselves saw fit to curse it so none could ever weild it against them.]
Cursed Ring -1 [This ring of legend holds such indescribable power the gods themselves fear it, and so they cursed it may none ever stand against them with it.]

Rainbow Ring (rare) (EX)
[Ring] Lv75 All Jobs
DEF:0
STR+5 DEX+5 VIT+5 AGI+5 INT+5 MND+5 CHR+5 HP+20 MP+20

Prism Ring (rare) (EX)
[Ring] Lv75 All Jobs
DEF:0
STR+6 DEX+6 VIT+6 AGI+6 INT+6 MND+6 CHR+6 HP+25 MP+25

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This will never happen. But it'd be pretty cool if it did

I support the idea. I really want to see more High level crafts in the game since the RMT problem isn't that huge of a threat anymore.

[Karbuncle]

to Toksyu, I believe i remember mentioning of only being able to put a maximum of 4 Categories on an item, like

{HP/MP}
{Elemental Resistance}
{Stats}
{Acc/Attack/Evasion/etc}
{Special Bonuses}(I think these are divided into like, Critical +, Job Bonuses, Resist Traits, Killer traits, all being their own Category)
{Hidden Effects}

Etc. (you mentioned they'd never do it and if i think i could live with Prism Staff giving +5 to all Stats and the Hidden MaB and Avatar Perp-3)

[Katlan]

For whatever reason, some people on other FF forums are thinking it's a quested xp system. Why people want a bland system like that I don't know.

I don't think it's possible for a game designed around PT XP... It would require them reworking stuff from scratch and I don't think it's possible. Adding more ways to obtain XP scrolls is one thing, but even XP scrolls can never offer an alt way to lv up a job.

[Faithe]

I also want Killer Effect to MEAN something and Monster correlation to be more potent. I know we got pierce, blunt, slash already but that isn't enough. So all the jobs can be a little more unique. Right now what is really the difference between all the melees? WAR DRK DRG etc. If I'm fighting a dragon, I want to consider to bring dragoons because they will be good for them and etc.

[arus2001]

I support the idea. I really want to see more High level crafts in the game since the RMT problem isn't that huge of a threat anymore.

I'm all about improving crafting, but fuck those synths. Like Salvage bodies need another reason to become even more expensive.

[Corrderio]

I'm all about improving crafting, but fuck those synths. Like Salvage bodies need another reason to become even more expensive.

Heh, no arguement there.

[Seraphus]

What if crafters were able to make items that get hit with an EX tag immediately when it leaves their hands?

It'd be kinda like buying a rare/ex item, but buying it from the crafter that made it, I guess. <_<

[phrost]

BoE, lol.

[Charismatic]

phrost... that sig is awesome

[phrost]

I wanted to shoop some flava flav style rings on his knuckles, PLD4 LYFE or someshit, but I couldn't find a torrent of mspaint.

[Katlan]

They could add xp to crafting. make "X" synth and you get a certain amount of xp depending on if its NQ/HQ, lv of snyth, ect ect... Would be a fun at 75 to get merit points while crafting or recapping a job's xp through crafting. Doesn't need to be a groundbreaking amount of xp, but even something like 50-100xp per successful synth would add up really fast

[phrost]

They could add xp to crafting. make "X" synth and you get a certain amount of xp depending on if its NQ/HQ, lv of snyth, ect ect... Would be a fun at 75 to get merit points while crafting or recapping a job's xp through crafting. Doesn't need to be a groundbreaking amount of xp, but even something like 50-100xp per successful synth would add up really fast

I like this idea, as I've never gotten into crafting. it seemed like such a tedious and time intensive thing to do which in today's in-game economy does not give returns proportional to the ammount of time invested.

Although i guess this would open up the door to craft botting. what about fish botters?... another problem.

[Katlan]

Although i guess this would open up the door to craft botting. what about fish botters?... another problem.

Isn't there already craft botters? Don't think how adding XP to crafting would encourage more botters since craft botters are all lv one and don't care for xp. I guess it could be a faster way to get XP vs Campaign, but also requires more money and resources.

Meh, fanatasy world anyways.. would never happen