Election Day Thread

[zoobernut]

I thought there were special rules when amending the state constitution were involved. An example would be in the post above for the Florida measure it is stated that 60% in favor is needed for it to pass.

I was just curious if anyone knew.

[0ni0n]

I thought there were special rules when amending the state constitution were involved. An example would be in the post above for the Florida measure it is stated that 60% in favor is needed for it to pass.

I was just curious if anyone knew.

I think that's called super majority, where you need 2/3 of the votes in order to get a bill passed, but I am not an expert on FL laws.

According to Wiki,
"The United States Constitution requires a supermajority of two-thirds of both houses of Congress to propose a Congress-driven constitutional amendment; it also requires a three-quarters supermajority of state legislatures for final adoption of any constitutional amendment, a two-thirds supermajority of both houses of Congress to pass a bill over the president's veto, and a majority of the fixed membership to elect a President and Vice President (of Electors in the Electoral College, or if the election should pass to the Congress to decide, a majority of State delegations in the House to elect the President, and a majority of Senators to elect the Vice President)."

[Olo401]

I thought there were special rules when amending the state constitution were involved. An example would be in the post above for the Florida measure it is stated that 60% in favor is needed for it to pass.

I was just curious if anyone knew.

This is now being explored as a possible out to CA Prop 8 - the two previous cases that went to the state supreme court set precedent that marriage equality was based in the state's constitution. This would mean that technically to change that basis, it would require a constitutional revision amendment, not an add-on amendment. Revision amendments require a 2/3 supermajority in both house of the state legislature and 2/3 supermajority of the popular vote.

Expect to see this go back to the CA Supremes. And even if it doesn't, or if they dismiss such a case, this probably won't be the last word. I'd even expect to see a repeal initiative in two years.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Ted Stevens won Alaska

As a convicted felon


WHAT THE FUCK ALASKA

[Dimmauk]

Ted Stevens won Alaska

As a convicted felon


WHAT THE FUCK ALASKA

He will step down, and Palin will self-appoint herself to replace him.

[Maxxthepenguin]

He will step down, and Palin will self-appoint herself to replace him.

Well, that's the theory anyways.

But still, what the fuck is wrong with Alaska?

[zoobernut]

This is now being explored as a possible out to CA Prop 8 - the two previous cases that went to the state supreme court set precedent that marriage equality was based in the state's constitution. This would mean that technically to change that basis, it would require a constitutional revision amendment, not an add-on amendment. Revision amendments require a 2/3 supermajority in both house of the state legislature and 2/3 supermajority of the popular vote.

Expect to see this go back to the CA Supremes. And even if it doesn't, or if they dismiss such a case, this probably won't be the last word. I'd even expect to see a repeal initiative in two years.

I hope this approach works. It makes me sick to think about everyone talking so much about equality for everyone and equal rights and how historic the presidential election is and then shit like this happens.

[Correction]

I hope this approach works. It makes me sick to think about everyone talking so much about equality for everyone and equal rights and how historic the presidential election is and then shit like this happens.

It would require the same degree of turnout that we saw for the presidential election, which is nigh-impossible in a Gubernatorial race.

[Khamsin]

Maybe in 8 years we'll get a gay president. We could have taken care of all the "firsts" in one shot had we elected a black lesbian muslim woman.

[Ashira]

Mm, make her single and atheist too.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Mm, make her single and atheist too.

Probably with an intent to kill every baby in the world. Got to get that precious elphaba vote.

[Beckwin]

Ted Stevens won Alaska

As a convicted felon


WHAT THE FUCK ALASKA

And CA, AZ, and FL banned gay marriage in their constitutions. CA is particularly disheartening because it took away an established right.

It's great that we elected a fairly liberal, African-American President but we've still got ground to cover in this country.

[Roranora]

Maybe in 8 years we'll get a gay president. We could have taken care of all the "firsts" in one shot had we elected a black lesbian muslim woman.

Mm, make her single and atheist too.

..with a pregnant teenage daughter from a previous relationship (not marriage) before she came out as a lesbian. Whether or not the daughter has yet to become a lesbian herself doesn't matter.

[Xno Kappa]

Wow, the prop 8 turn-out is saddening. Seriously, who gives a damn about gay people getting married, don't we have more important shit to worry about?

[Maxxthepenguin]

And CA, AZ, and FL banned gay marriage in their constitutions. CA is particularly disheartening because it took away an established right.

It's great that we elected a fairly liberal, African-American President but we've still got ground to cover in this country.

All of that is like ok, yeah, I know people favor a "Seperate but Equal" form of marriage for gay people.

BUT A FUCKING CONVICTED FELON

what the shit is that

[Correction]

All of that is like ok, yeah, I know people favor a "Seperate but Equal" form of marriage for gay people.

BUT A FUCKING CONVICTED FELON

what the shit is that

There's precedent Marion Barry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Stevens is wildly popular in his home state. If he started fucking baby corpses he'd still win a landslide re-election.

[zoobernut]

All of that is like ok, yeah, I know people favor a "Seperate but Equal" form of marriage for gay people.

BUT A FUCKING CONVICTED FELON

what the shit is that

Didn't we already go through this "Separate but Equal" bullshit in the 60's and wasn't it found to be unconstitutional and not allowed? Didn't that philosophy fail? Why do we have to go through this again every time with a new group of people.

[Meph]

awww man...

Coleman 1,211,584 42%
Franken 1,210,894 42%
Barkley 437,405 15%

100% precincts reporting - Updated 2 minutes ago
(according to CNN's tracker)

[Maxxthepenguin]

Didn't we already go through this "Separate but Equal" bullshit in the 60's and wasn't it found to be unconstitutional and not allowed? Didn't that philosophy fail? Why do we have to go through this again every time with a new group of people.

It sounds so good in theory, everyone gets what they want!

[Dimmauk]

awww man...

Coleman 1,211,584 42%
Franken 1,210,894 42%
Barkley 437,405 15%

100% precincts reporting - Updated 2 minutes ago
(according to CNN's tracker)

They going to recount.