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    Quote Originally Posted by Bingbong View Post

    and not Outrageous Executive salaries, or failed R&D expenditures, or over saturation of supply, or lack of Quality Control...
    I agree 100%. Some of the Electronic companies are failing for the same reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charla View Post
    So just to paraphrase


    And I'd like to point out that rising medical costs are in turn partly responsible for the size of those pension payments.
    Bingo. that and increasing life expectancies (they go hand in hand though). Go ahead and cite Japanese and Korean companies not having to deal with unions... then look at two countries who have national health insurance programs at minimal cost to the employee.

    There's some problems and corruptions within unions, but I'm not gonna dump all the blame on guys and gals who want to earn a secure retirement after 30 or so years of hard work. Each golden parachute and excessive executive salary covers dozens and dozens of pensions, not to mention the feel-good retreats after a shitty quarter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin View Post
    There's some problems and corruptions within unions, but I'm not gonna dump all the blame on guys and gals who want to earn a secure retirement after 30 or so years of hard work. Each golden parachute and excessive executive salary covers dozens and dozens of pensions, not to mention the feel-good retreats after a shitty quarter.
    Not to mention American companies cannot pay workers $30/hr to put a nut on a bolt and remain competitive on the world market.

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    Letting her hair down: Sarah Palin ditches the up-do... and steals the show at Republican gathering as she praises Obama

    In an utterly bewildering two days, Alaskan governor Sarah Palin praised Barack Obama, accused him of associating with terrorists, hinted yet again at the possibility of running for president in 2012, squashed that same speculation, stole the show from other governors at a Republican gathering - and let her hair down.

    'I wish Barack Obama well as the 44th President of the United States,' she told the Republican Governors Association Meeting in Miami yesterday.

    'If he governs with the skill and the grace and the greatness of which he is capable, we're going to be just fine.'

    Just hours before, during an interview on CNN's Larry King Live, she also praised Obama - before accusing him of being associated with 'terrorist' William Ayers.

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    Sarah Palin wore her hair in a new loose style as she addressed the Republican Governors Association conference in Miami yesterday

    Mrs Palin, who was partly blamed for the Republican's defeat to Barack Obama, denied she was a political celebrity and aimed to tone down speculation she might run against Mr Obama in the 2012 presidential election.

    Making no reference to her earlier hints that she would launch a presidential bid and God would show her the way, she said the party needed to focus on the governors races in 2010.

    Asked if she would use her 'new political credibility' for her party, she said: 'I don't know if it's political celebrity, but I want to put to good use my experience that I have.

    'We're going to focus here on what we can do as a team as Republican governors.'

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    During the presidential campaign Mrs Palin favoured swept up looks

    Talking about last week's election, she added: 'As far as we're concerned, the past is the past, it's behind us. We're focused on the future.'

    Later, in her speech Mrs Palin, 44, said it had been a 'privilege' to inspire young girls and said she wanted 'no more ceilings on achievement, glass or otherwise'.

    She added that she thought a woman would be good for the Republican presidential ticket in the next election.'It would be good for the ticket. It would be good for the party. I would be happy to get to do whatever is asked of me to help progress this nation,' she said.

    But even thought she doesn't see herself as a celebrity, Mrs Palin has been busy appearing in a a flurry of one-on-one interviews with major US TV news stations and programmes this week such as NBC, Fox and Larry King Live.

    She said she has put the 'brutal' 2008 campaign behind her and was looking to the future.

    On Monday she told Fox: 'I'm like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I'm like, don't let me miss the open door.'And if there is an open door in '12 or four years later, and if it is something that is going to be good for my family, for my state, for my nation, an opportunity for me, then I'll plough through that door.'
    Letting her hair down: Sarah Palin ditches the up-do... and steals the show at Republican gathering | Mail Online

    I like how this article is trying to be "serious", but in-between are images explaining her current hair style.

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    One more, this site is bad;

    Obama chooses 'Renegade' as his Secret Service code name (while Bush gets to keep 'Trailblazer')

    They might sound like macho nicknames children would call each other while playing but Renegade and Renaissance are the new Secret Service code names given to President-elect Barack Obama and his wife Michelle.

    The Obama's succeed President George W. Bush and his wife, Laura - also known as Trailblazer and Tempo.

    And although the code names are used by the Secret Service they are anything but secret in loose-lips Washington.

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    Protection: Obama is flanked by Secret Service agents at a rally in Florida before he won the election

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    Barack Obama's daughters Sasha (left, code-named Rosebud) and Malia (code-named Radiance) have the cars doors opened for them by a Secret Service agent as they are dropped off at school while their dad waits in the car in Chicago today

    Obama had a say in choosing his code name that his protectors use when they are whispering into those microphones in their sleeves.

    He was given his choice of several names starting with R.

    And in keeping with the tradition of having all family members' code names start with the same letter, future first lady Michelle Obama is Renaissance, and daughters Sasha and Malia are known as Rosebud and Radiance, respectively.

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    Trailblazer: President George Bush, winking before he addresses the United Nations today, will be able to keep his codename as he is entitled to Secret Service protection for life

    As for Mr and Mrs Bush whatever else their new lives hold for them, they can take their alternate identities as Trailblazer and Tempo with them. They still are entitled to Secret Service protection.

    Created in 1865 to track down counterfeiters, the Secret Service was assigned the job of protecting the president in 1913 but remained in the Treasury Department.

    The agency was transferred to the new Department of Homeland Security in 2003. It now protects not only the president and vice president but selected other officials and visiting dignitaries.

    Lists of possible code names for those who receive Secret Service protection are drawn up by the White House Communications Agency, a branch of the military that serves the White House and Secret Service. It looks for words that are easily pronounced and easily understood in radio transmissions.

    The subjects do have some say in the names they will be known by, and some have been given more leeway than others.

    Which is not always a good thing.

    Al Gore's oldest daughter, Karenna, was 19 when her father became vice president in 1993. Old enough to know better.

    In 1997, she wrote: 'Ever since four years ago, when I was put on the spot and told 'two syllables' and 'It has to start with an s,' I have been cringing in the back seat when identified as 'Smurfette.'


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    Guarded: A Secret Service agent standing guard as Obama autographed books backstage after a rally in Miami before he won the election

    Truth be told, the whole idea of secret code names is something of a misnomer these days.

    'There's nothing Top Secret about them,' Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren said. 'It has no operational security significance anymore because of encrypted communication capabilities.'

    Nowadays, Zahren said, the code names have 'nothing to do with security' and more about tradition and ease in radio communication when tracking the subjects' movements.

    They also provide never-ending fodder for comics and politicians looking for a laugh.
    As vice president, Gore repeatedly told crowds that he is so boring, his code name is ... Al Gore.

    Over the years, some code names have seemed fairly random - President Gerald Ford's was Passkey - while others seemed tailor-made for their subjects.

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    Phoenix and Angler: Republican's John McCain and Dick Cheney also have code names

    Incoming Vice President Joe Biden, who has Irish roots, is Celtic.

    President Ronald Reagan, who cultivated the brush-clearing cowboy image, was Rawhide.

    Jimmy Carter, a Sunday School teacher and deacon, is Deacon.

    Dick Cheney, who likes to fish, is Angler. Writer Barton Gellman thought Angler was such an apt description for the wily vice president that he used it as the name of a best-selling book about Cheney.

    John McCain, a four-term senator from Arizona who was Obama's Republican presidential rival, is Phoenix. His fashion-conscious wife, Cindy, is Parasol.

    Sarah Palin, the Alaska governor who was McCain's running mate, was Denali, just like the national park in her home state, and the natural gas pipeline project that she promotes.

    Her husband, Todd, the North Slope oil worker, was Driller.

    Some code names have not worked out so well.

    When Jesse Jackson was assigned the code name Pontiac during his 1988 run for president, some thought the name had racial overtones. Pontiac is the punch line to a series of racist jokes.

    The Secret Service said there was no racial motivation in selecting the name, and offered the candidate a new one. Jackson said he had no problem with it.

    There is no word on why Obama selected Renegade.

    But it is a sure bet that he was not thinking about the word's origins. According to the Online Etymology Dictionary, Renegade's earliest meanings had to do with deserting one's religion, coming from the Spanish word 'renegado,' originally 'Christian turned Muslim.'
    For review;

    Barack Obama: Renegade
    Joe Biden: Celtic
    Michelle Obama: Renaissance
    Sasha Obama: Rosebud
    Malia Obama: Radiance
    George W. Bush: Trailblazer
    Laura Bush: Tempo
    Dick Cheney: Angler
    Karenna Gore: Smurfette
    Al Gore: Al Gore
    Gerald Ford: Passkey
    John McCain: Phoenix
    Jimmy Carter: Deacon
    Sarah Palin: Denali
    Todd Palin: Driller
    Jesse Jackson: Pontiac

    Obama chooses 'Renegade' as his Secret Service code name (while Bush gets to keep 'Trailblazer') | Mail Online

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    lmao at some of names used. Mainly Laura Bush:Tempo and Todd Palin: Driller lmao.

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    is the al gore being al gore supposed to be a joke?

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    Jesse Jackson is Pontiac? That's sad.

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    Tags:
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    Also, those 14 signs are nothing new and, frankly, some of them are getting better.

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    Wait, Freemasonry still exists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charla View Post
    Wait, Freemasonry still exists?
    Yeah there are some Mason lodges around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilong View Post
    is the al gore being al gore supposed to be a joke?
    no, thats actually what he wanted to be referred to as by the SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    no, thats actually what he wanted to be referred to as by the SS.
    this is probably the funniest thing ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxxthepenguin View Post
    Tags:
    14 Signs Fascism Wicked Zionists Nazis Government USA No Liberties Cheney Bush Ron Paul Freemasonry NWO New World Order

    Also, those 14 signs are nothing new and, frankly, some of them are getting better.
    I disagree with "Nazis," "NWO" and "Freemasonry" (wtf is Freemasonry). That's about it though. Zionist influence (Israel Lobby, etc) and everything else - Check.

    The way I see it, our intellectual culture is a wreck. The country is polarized because of the dishonesty of our news. A great example is how the American press deals with the Israel/Palestine conflict and plenty of studies (you have to go by paper/new station) demonstrate significant bias and fabrication of statistics.

    In fact, keeping with this example, the Israeli papers are more honest about the ME conflict in comparison to the American ones. It's a shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis View Post
    (wtf is Freemasonry)
    I guess you didn't see that episode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis View Post
    I disagree with "Nazis," "NWO" and "Freemasonry" (wtf is Freemasonry). That's about it though. Zionist influence (Israel Lobby, etc) and everything else - Check.

    The way I see it, our intellectual culture is a wreck. The country is polarized because of the dishonesty of our news. A great example is how the American press deals with the Israel/Palestine conflict and plenty of studies (you have to go by paper/new station) demonstrate significant bias and fabrication of statistics.

    In fact, keeping with this example, the Israeli papers are more honest about the ME conflict in comparison to the American ones. It's a shame.
    It's not just on Israel and the Mid East, but thats a big part of it. Theres 2 really good books by Howard Friel and Richard Falk, The Record of the Paper and Israel-Palestine on Record that detail how fucking biased, inaccurate, and deceptive the NYTimes is on US foreign policy and solely on Israel in the second one. And yeah, Ha'aretz is alot better on whats going on in the Middle East, in fact one of their editorial writers tried to get some columns published here when he was lecturing here around the time of the build up to the Iraq War and he was told nobody would print it cause its way too 'liberal' for the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZarakiKujata View Post
    It's not just on Israel and the Mid East, but thats a big part of it. Theres 2 really good books by Howard Friel and Richard Falk, The Record of the Paper and Israel-Palestine on Record that detail how fucking biased, inaccurate, and deceptive the NYTimes is on US foreign policy and solely on Israel in the second one. And yeah, Ha'aretz is alot better on whats going on in the Middle East, in fact one of their editorial writers tried to get some columns published here when he was lecturing here around the time of the build up to the Iraq War and he was told nobody would print it cause its way too 'liberal' for the US.
    It's even worse when it comes to television media.

    I like this site for analysis of the MSM in the States:
    If Americans Knew - what every American needs to know about Israel/Palestine (sources all major Human Rights Groups/UN and World Court decisions/etc.)

    One such study:

    http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/net-fig5.gif

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    So, why are we still supporting them again?

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