Notorious Monster Rages!

[johnboy]

This was on Mnk/Nin, and used over 10 stacks of shihei (Yay for stocking up my weekly stack of bags before coming).

10 stacks? ive held hnm for way longer than your 1hour 50mins and never used 10 stacks.... dragging an ixion out for an hour only uses about 2 stacks, and nearly always casting.

[Octavious]

edit: also, if nin brd rdm wiped at 1% , then it definitely shows your group can kill it, but maybe with a different strategy...1% is maybe different food, different songs, a better ws setup, another nuke from the rdm

This is what I was thinking honestly. I've trio'd Roc/Simurgh in plenty of time before, it just depends on your strategy and the ability of the players. If I had to recomend a stupid rage timer, it would be NQ Kings. 60minutes is way too much time for something like NQ Turtle/Behemoth, even Fafnir anymore. Most LS's should/already be able to do Fafnir in < 20minutes.

[altwight]

The way I see it, is SE must have a set amount of people that can do a set amount of dmg in a given time for you to win. That's how they implemented rage timers. Which is just stupid. Limiting players to go by how they play (to an extent) is rather poor service. Wait wha?

edit: except they really screwed up NQ behemoth's time. If I were for rage I would say his timer should be 10minutes but then again I think his timer should be removed completely so people who CAN may solo.

[Sonomaa]

should have used monk instead of nin. Ive duoed it with rdm and mnk but Ive seen full alliances wipe to it because they were morons

[nekura]

This is what I was thinking honestly. I've trio'd Roc/Simurgh in plenty of time before, it just depends on your strategy and the ability of the players. If I had to recomend a stupid rage timer, it would be NQ Kings. 60minutes is way too much time for something like NQ Turtle/Behemoth, even Fafnir anymore. Most LS's should/already be able to do Fafnir in < 20minutes.

NQ Behemoth is 30 minutes, not sure about turtle. It's still a bit much considering if you have a skillchain and a BLM you can tear him up in ten minutes or less.

[Cloudius]

lolrage, but more importantly Alt where the hell are you!?

[Yugl]

I'm 99% positive DT does not Rage. I can say this, since I've once solo'd the bugger for.... 1 hour, 50 minutes. Yeah. NO JOKE >_<. I blame lazy friends who didn't want to run out to bloody CN and help with it <_<. This was on Mnk/Nin, and used over 10 stacks of shihei (Yay for stocking up my weekly stack of bags before coming). Was able to handle damage from its attacks enough so that Chakra with 1 Invigorate merit could cover healing (Wouldn't have been possible if it raged, because it surely did get quite a few hits in between shadows on occasion, wasn't using counterstance). At the 1:45:00 mark, finally got a Drk friend out there and we SC:Light'd it to finish it off. Yes, I can also confirm the bastard runs out of MP <_< he started only using pollen less than an hour into the fight. At least I got my sting from it...

That's odd because its obviously stronger when its melee hits go from 30 to 90 DMG (Up to 160 on crits) per hit. I fought it for about the same amount of time (Total) as well so it wasn't a rage timer later than that.

Edit: Might have to do with the amount of times it hits you since on DRG I don't use shadows.

[Deadgye]

It's not a whoosh, it's people underestimating how good NIN damage is on shit with no defense. Meriting on Greater Colibris, THF gets the same damage bonus and can't reliably pull ahead of a really good NIN without relic.

EDIT: NVM, just looked it up and additionally slashing gets a 25% reduction, so I guess THF is going to come out well ahead. My mistake.

lol... Seriously? I can keep up with ninjas on mamools and it's fair game there. I tied at 31% with one ninja in the party, and the relic ninja had 38%. It'd probably be a better comparison if both ninjas had normal weapons, but yeah.. If I can match nin on mamools it's easy to see I would wreck them on colibri. (Also, I'm pretty sure slashing only gets a 10% reduction on roc type mobs.)

[Raen Ryong]

It's not a whoosh, it's people underestimating how good NIN damage is on shit with no defense. Meriting on Greater Colibris, THF gets the same damage bonus and can't reliably pull ahead of a really good NIN without relic.

You drastically underestimate a good THF at Greater Colibri ;x

[Psalm]

For TH purposes, but THF isn't going to outdamage NIN on Simurgh.

this guy needs to find a rock to hide under. dumbest thing I've seen anyone say on here.

[Tearshang]

I miss being bard in thf parties on colibri well an drg parties with friends. But yeah, for like Roc and Simurgh it's great to get like 2 thfs with support and watch them go to town. Always makes me feel like a crappy tank when a thf is at one of them.

btw this thread made me think of this: YouTube - Hyper Simurgh

[Greatguardian]

10 stacks? ive held hnm for way longer than your 1hour 50mins and never used 10 stacks.... dragging an ixion out for an hour only uses about 2 stacks, and nearly always casting.

10 stacks were gone from my inventory, casting as soon as timer's up, all the time. A handful were lost to paralyga; but it's best not to underestimate the possible shihei consumption in this solo if people are looking to try it.

[sleekmotorwurkz]

It's not a whoosh, it's people underestimating how good NIN damage is on shit with no defense. Meriting on Greater Colibris, THF gets the same damage bonus and can't reliably pull ahead of a really good NIN without relic.

EDIT: NVM, just looked it up and additionally slashing gets a 25% reduction, so I guess THF is going to come out well ahead. My mistake.

Either youve had shitty thfs at colibri camp or your ninja is Jesus.

[Alistaire]

Either youve had shitty thfs at colibri camp or your ninja is Jesus.

Blasphemy!...Jesus is clearly a WHM.

[Hosom]

Blasphemy!...Jesus is clearly a WHM.

Possibly a Pld seeing as he takes half damage?

[Lexa]

Nah, Jesus has Reraise, that's a well-known fact. He used it shortly before teleporting.