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    Morgana's Cotehardie hidden effect

    I use Morgana's Cotehardie to nuke T-VT stuff in sky as rdm. I've noticed that whenever I had refresh on, I would hardly ever resist, but whenever it wears off and I nuke, there was a good chance I would get a partial resist.

    Could it be that refresh triggers a hidden effect to reverse the -8 magic acc to +8?

    A lot of my LS mates are noticing this as well, even on HNM's such as Khim! Anyone can help me prove or disprove this?

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    Can't you do it yourself? Just nuke something 200 times with no refresh and 200 times with, see the difference in resist rate and you'll see if there's a basis to your idea or not.

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    Is 200 times enough to get conclusive evidence? I'm not that good with numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kandiekane View Post
    Is 200 times enough to get conclusive evidence? I'm not that good with numbers.
    it's a start.

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    You'd know from it if it's worth continuing to test on, I'm gonna call bs anyway cus it's be way too powerful for relatively easy to get (kinda)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starr View Post
    Can't you do it yourself? Just nuke something 200 times with no refresh and 200 times with, see the difference in resist rate and you'll see if there's a basis to your idea or not.
    The problem with this is that on anything you can nuke 200 times with consistency, you would have capped M. Acc irrelevent of the negative stats.

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    Obviously you would do it on a mob with base 50-70% accuracy for best results.

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    Or well do it with sleep, but you could get results from nukes

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    The problem with this is that on anything you can nuke 200 times with consistency, you would have capped M. Acc irrelevent of the negative stats.
    Step 1: Take off all your clothes
    Step 2: Aydeewa Subterrane, there should be EM Archaeologists there@75
    Step 3: Nuke shit up

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    Nothing in the lore of Lady Morgana, from the Arthurian tales would suggest this being a latent.

    This seems to be an example of extrinsic finality, an event happened because of x (variable), therefore the outcome is related.

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    Me thinks someone's got a few M.Cotes to unload...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    Step 1: Take off all your clothes
    Step 2: Aydeewa Subterrane, there should be EM Archaeologists there@75
    Step 3: Nuke shit up
    Cool, excellent scenario to test it with. I tend to think of things in melee terms for testing, and that tends to be pretty difficult.

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    Didn't lady morgana have a nice rack?

    Clearly you should be a female character with .dat swapped HUGE BEWBS, and then the -macc gets inverted by being stretched to become +macc.

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    well first T-VT is low enaugh to not get resists on rdm with approriate gear. Now to test it, it's easy but will take 2 hours.

    go in alzadaal, nuke 300 times with stone I a qiqirn with the body only and neutral gear. Then repeat with refresh. Try to do it on a neutral day too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    well first T-VT is low enaugh to not get resists on rdm with approriate gear. Now to test it, it's easy but will take 2 hours.

    go in alzadaal, nuke 300 times with stone I a qiqirn with the body only and neutral gear. Then repeat with refresh. Try to do it on a neutral day too.
    Nuking isn't the only option. If finding something to resist half your nukes would get you killed, go /drk and do absorbs. or /whm and banish (depending on your skill) or even go cure some undead (pick a mage and don't silence it just run when it casts)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    Step 1: Take off all your clothes
    Dammit now Hot In Here is stuck in my head.

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    I did some testing on groundskeepers.

    With m cotehardie and refresh on, i landed 96/100 nukes. (about 1 resist every 3 mobs)
    With m cotehardie and refresh off, i landed 82/100 nukes. (at least 1 resist every mob)

    I certainly felt a lot more resist w/o refresh. I don't know if these numbers prove anything, but it certainly feels like refresh makes a difference

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    do more, 200-300 please

    really, shit's pretty powerful if it's true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merona View Post
    You are always gonna find what you're looking for, in some fashion.
    Maybe if you're eyeballing sure, but adding up the #s not necessarily. And 4% resist vs 18% resist is a wide enough margin to warrant further testing at the very least.

    Oh, and can't find that Elmer thread about latent/hidden effects, did that get moved?

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