Lowman Jailer of Justice

[Neoex]

Few linkshell members and I have about 10 JoJ pops, what would be minimal set to kill this.

can 2 BLMs handle the spawns?

I was thinking

tank pt
pld
war/nin
war/nin
rdm
whm
brd

second pt
rdm
blm
blm

opinions? can this be trimmed down?

[Karshe]

I would think that in a longer (low-manned) fight your BLMs would run out of MP on summon duty long before JoJ was dead. I have no experience low manning this jailer though, so here's hoping someone can prove me wrong. Obviously the WAR's would have to be prepared to main tank after the PLD gets charmed.

[Neoex]

yeah thats why I got war/nin's expecting the main tank to be charmed at least once. How often do multiple people get charmed.

How about the bard party hoping for ballads? Does anyone know how much HP a summon has? I thought I remember 2 tier3's knocking them out.

[Karshe]

It has been a while since I've been BLM on JoJ but I'd guess the pets have around 2000 HP. Two tier 3's is risky because if the nukes are staggered the pet could Mijin after the first one and that can hurt. We usually just nuke them with a FreezeII order, that way they're one-shotted or brought down to 1-5% and the Mijin doesn't hurt. 2000+ seems too high for a FreezeII but I'm pretty sure nukes do more damage on them? It has been so long since I've nuked them so I stand to be corrected. o_o

[Lordwafik]

BLM won't run out of MP so long as it's CONSTANTLY being fed to them. They have to recover enough MP to outlast them rotating T3 and T4. I don't think they'd even recover enough with RDM(3) BRD(3) COR(2-3) refresh body(1).

We do it with 4 BLM, 2 rest 2 nuke, 1 uses aero4 or stone4(you can't nuke too high or it blows up), the other a t3 nuke, then alternate on the t3/4. When we have good attendance, we usually kill justice before the 2nd set of blm are out of MP .

[Darkmoon]

Few linkshell members and I have about 10 JoJ pops, what would be minimal set to kill this.

can 2 BLMs handle the spawns?

I was thinking

tank pt
pld
war/nin
war/nin
rdm
whm
brd

second pt
rdm
blm
blm

opinions? can this be trimmed down?

This is going to be a very ver slow fight where you eventualy get overwhelmend with adds.


i really cant see 2 blms managing to keep up with the adds, and not die to aoe when adds dont die correctly.

If you somehow could bump that to 4 BLMs and rotate the BRD, then you could probably kill it. 2 only though seems rather painful.

JoJ him self is about as deadly as a sack of cotten balls.

[Darkmoon]

Just to add what we do.

I typically GHorn 4 BLMs as the adds killers, they all nuke Tier 3 at the same time, if somthing gets off, I Curaga2 since other then Ballads im bored.

Again I know this isnt the option you probably have, but since people are listing what they do figured I'd list our method.

[Neoex]

ok so 4 blms 1 brd and 1 rdm, could handle pops, has anyone tried a few SAM/WAR's to voke WS the pops? does that work?

[Darkslitter]

don't think you'd need the bard if you had pairs of blms for nuking and had one pair up the other pair resting. Problem is, one blm dies and its game over.

[Furionstormrage]

Can't you still use the wall from the top (Limbus area) to the bottom (Jailer area) to "wall of justice" the outside Jailers?

I know you can't on AV anymore, but I thought that I'd heard of this being done not too long ago.

It's an option for you, although be prepared for some whiny little emo to GM it.

[Darkslitter]

yeah you can still wall of justice him, but like you said you can get banned for it

[Neoex]

I figured someone, somewhere would have a livejournal post for low manning this, I guess ill have to just give it a try and see how it goes

[Callisto]

I think the lowest we've done it with is 12 or 13 ish, though we almost always need 3 tanks for JoJ itself, as often he will use a 2nd charm before the first is up. COR for the tank party is great as it can use Light Shot to sleep charmed tanks quickly, as Quick Draw ignores shadows.

Typically we do a tank party of:

PLD/NIN
RDM/NIN
NIN/DRK
COR/DNC
WHM/SCH

and a BRD if available, then we have everyone else in attendance sit in outside party/alliance and deal with the spawns. Basically the 3 tanks do the bulk of the damage, it's a slow kill but it's pretty safe. Death Blossom > Atonement Light helps speed things up a little when we can get TP at the same time.

[Karshe]

4 BLMs need minimal refresh if you're doing the FreezeII method, because once your turn is over you have a long time to rest until you're up again. That's how we do it, anyway.

[Kurt Cobain]

we just zerged it if thats an option for your ls <_< think our lowest kill was with 11, 2-3 multi-hit drks and other assorted melees, usually got one summon off and someone pulled it to the side while we kept on trucking. brd rotation, feint, etc. in all of our kills it always used familiar first, noone ever got charmed when we fought it this way and it was always dead in <1min

[Kaeko]

Riiari did a 4 man of this I think using some wall abuse.

Riiari @ FFXI (do a find for 'justice')

Pretty sure that's the same wall I posted about for AV but not sure.

[wop]

Riiari did a 4 man of this I think using some wall abuse.

Riiari @ FFXI (do a find for 'justice')

Pretty sure that's the same wall I posted about for AV but not sure.

Yes it is. Have someone spam dia so that it doesn't go back to pop spot, while BLM's just nuke the shit out of it.

Hardest part is pulling it there. RDM or PLD with powder boots or THF should do the trick.

[DNAval]

Ummm a little off topic but after checking Riiari LJ, got me wondering how the hell he/she get such High quality pics... I run FFXI @ Max settings, with a more than good PC and still get some jaggy lines, any one wanna give me some input?

Edit: Errrr.... too many LJ opened.. it wasn't Riiari LJ, it was http://www.theafterlifels.com/ their PICS are so freaking clear, specially that Omega one, any ideas thx

[Drex]

Didn't look on site but probably photoshop involved

[fishstix]

For max settings, did you max out the background resolution too? like 2048x2048 or something. It could also be a higher resolution pic, resized for the page.