Dark Knight WS Equip

[Raen Ryong]

Nah, not close. You'd need a fair bit more.

[Valyana]

Yes, my point was not that you shouldn't bother with DA, but rather that you shouldn't wait for Brutal before using Pole Strap because DA doesn't have increasing returns as you stack it like Haste does.

Actually, though, Mythril+1 seems about even with Pole for Guillotine:

STR: 2 * 0.25 * 0.83 + 2 * 0.25 = + 0.915 D, 0.79% improvement on Tredecim (assuming 100 base STR and 0 base fSTR, will be somewhat lower)
Acc (90% base): 1/90 = 1.11% improvement
together: 1.92% improvement

Whereas Pole is a 2% improvement with no other DA, 1.9% with Brutal.

So they're about even for WS. But Pole wins out in TP phase, because STR doesn't increase your TP gain.

[RPGTyrant]

If I had the follwing setup for Guillotine, does anyone see any slots that have a glaring problem with a possible gear change solution?

Tredecim / Pole / / Bomb Core
Heca / Chiv / Brutal / Abyss
Haub / Af+1 / Rajas / Ulthalam
Abyssal / Life(Warwolf?) / Black / Heca

I normally /SAM, and have 8/8 scythe, 4/4 crit, am mithra, and have been generally unimpressed by my Guillo numbers as of late. (Just started really meriting again after a long time)

[Maaglin]

If I had the follwing setup for Guillotine, does anyone see any slots that have a glaring problem with a possible gear change solution?

Tredecim / Pole / / Bomb Core
Heca / Chiv / Brutal / Abyss
Haub / Af+1 / Rajas / Ulthalam
Abyssal / Life(Warwolf?) / Black / Heca

I normally /SAM, and have 8/8 scythe, 4/4 crit, am mithra, and have been generally unimpressed by my Guillo numbers as of late. (Just started really meriting again after a long time)

Bomblet > bomb core
pcc/gorget > chiv
haub +1 > haub
Life > warwolf (so you're right on that one, potent is also viable and better than warwolf)
ohat > heca (where acc not capped)

Your setup is not capped on accuarcy at any merit camp. You'll see better guillotines by using more accuracy pieces. You can swap in more str/atk pieces if you're in a party getting madrigal or hunter's roll obviously.

I know it's been beaten to death, but nice average guillotine numbers rely on hitting 4/4 hits as many times as you can. Any accuracy piece will be better than just about any str/atk piece if you're not at acc cap. The biggest mistake I see people doing with guillotine is using nhead over ohat in non-acc cap situations. It's like a diease.

[RPGTyrant]

I guess a more informative question would have been to ask what accuracy cap i'd be looking at for typical merit camps. I've heard + ~40 Acc in gear, but i'm not sure which mobs this refers to.

[Maaglin]

I guess a more informative question would have been to ask what accuracy cap i'd be looking at for typical merit camps. I've heard + ~40 Acc in gear, but i'm not sure which mobs this refers to.

~405 for birds, ~400-430 for most mamools with nin and thf being much higher; I think they are in the 450-460 range but I haven't really bothered to figure it out since it'll always be impractical to hit acc cap on them, so when I merit there, I just try to make sure I have diabolic eye up for them.

I run 2 different guillotine macros, one for when I'm at or near acc cap and one where I'm not. I switch between these based on songs/buffs being used, diabolic eye being up, etc.

[Arthars]

supremacy earring + vendetta for scythe if you have a shot at it

[Siralin]

Someone mind doing the math on Rutter Sabatons vs. Chaos Sollerets +1?

I haven't been to sky in forever so I really don't have access to Heca boots at the moment. I've been using Rutters because Temenos was a bitch before my last limbus shell broke. Tem decided to be nice tonight so I'll be upgrading the boots on sunday.

Edit: Nevermind, I remember asking this question a while ago when I thought I'd be getting the boots soon. Raen did the math for me. Link

[ubermonkey]

Having issues with my WS on drk. Fairly content with my TP set (needs a few obvious upgrades, which are coming. Omega is not my friend. I'm led to believe that ring + chain + rajas lets me keep 6hit all the time /sam, rather than depending on TP return. I'll ditch it when J-torque decides to show its face.

WS are another matter. They're moderately inconsistant, and not very high. I'm only managing 850 or so on average without stacking with SE. This is cor roll or minuet and food. It's really dissapointing. WS set is here. Heca mitts aren't actually there though, I have the abj sitting in my storage while I secure a cursed item. I've been using the fairly horrible pallas as a filler.

I'm really struggling to find why my WS are suffering so much. Another drk in my LS with similar gear (AF+1 hands though. Apollyon also is not my friend) pushes just over 1k on average, and spikes a bit higher too.

[chapstick]

Do you have scythe merits? Any other merits for drk? Capping out LR will beef up many ws numbers over a period of time, also D.eye for more acc to land those DA's. I wouldn't use Pallas, i'd go for the AF+1 or Heca asap.

[ubermonkey]

Do you have scythe merits? Any other merits for drk? Capping out LR will beef up many ws numbers over a period of time, also D.eye for more acc to land those DA's. I wouldn't use Pallas, i'd go for the AF+1 or Heca asap.

8/8 scythe, 2/5 LR effect and timer 4/5 Diabolic eye 4/5 Desperate blows.

[mallister]

pallas is horrid for guilly, get those hecamits. aside from that it's a very solid WS macro. what are you fighting? subjob? 850 seems a bit low for brd buffs + food at birds.

[ubermonkey]

pallas is horrid for guilly, get those hecamits. aside from that it's a very solid WS macro. what are you fighting? subjob? 850 seems a bit low for brd buffs + food at birds.

/sam always in merits.

Usually merit with 2brd or more regularly brd and cor, so I sit on 650-720 attack at birds, depending on roll luck and whether I've run out of kabobs at birds.

Mamool I usually eat hpie so my att is a little higher. I tend to miss a LOT more hits on mamool, I parse ~85% acc mostly (although I've hit up another 2 diabolic eye merits since I last merited, so it's probably a bit higher now).

[Maaglin]

My guillotine setup:

Tred
pole strap
fire bomblet
ohat
gorget
abssyal
brutal
haub +1
chaos gauntlets +1
raja's
flame ring
amemnt +1
potent
black legs
nfeet

I average about 1000 on the dot with brd buffs and spamming kabobs at birds. /sam.