Gimp / Confused / WTF Player Thread VII: Pimping your gimps

[Ohaigaiz]

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Please show me the light.

[Kilhart]

Yeah, using haste is just stupid. Sometimes I TP in full heca just because I hit harder.

I wish I still had that SS of the one guy who TPed in Heca mitts and then explained it by saying "i think it slow the enimey i hit ^_^".

[Thorny]

Heh,I dont even bother with haste some times, feels like a gain tp a lot less.

Turban, swift belt, dusk hands/feet = 14% haste(barbarossa's and vbelt are tough to get, but obviously those make it even better). Combine with March x2(you are partying with a BRD I would hope, considering COR has no replacement for elegy) and haste spell. Starting at 35-36% haste from buffs, 14% haste from that gear gives you 21.5% more attacks/time. Optical hat, life belt, war gloves+1, denali feet give you a total gain of 31 accuracy and 3 STR at the cost of 4 attack and 14% haste. Your 31 accuracy is 15.5% hitrate, the STR is pretty equal to the attack(and not a huge impact on your damage meleeing anyway). If you plot the equations:
Y = 1.215X
Y = X + .155

X represents your accuracy, Y represents the average #/hits landed in your delay before applying either set of gear. The first equation represents wearing the haste, as it gives a flat 21.5% more attacks. The second represents wearing the accuracy gear, it gives 15.5% accuracy. If you calculate the intersection, you can see that the haste gear will outdo the accuracy gear unless your accuracy is below 72%. There is no excuse for it to be that low in any situation where COR meleeing isn't counterproductive though, if you aren't giving your party hunter's you can use sushi(even at birds, COR shouldn't be hogging hate enough to worry about losing it). But hey, you're the one who advocates COR meleeing whenever I mention /whm so I would have expected you at least know how to optimize your damage while doing it..

[Dramafinderftw]

this guy has maats cap and he full timed this
http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/e...129_161312.png

[Deader2818]

Turban, swift belt, dusk hands/feet = 14% haste(barbarossa's and vbelt are tough to get, but obviously those make it even better). Combine with March x2(you are partying with a BRD I would hope, considering COR has no replacement for elegy) and haste spell. Starting at 35-36% haste from buffs, 14% haste from that gear gives you 21.5% more attacks/time. Optical hat, life belt, war gloves+1, denali feet give you a total gain of 31 accuracy and 3 STR at the cost of 4 attack and 14% haste. Your 31 accuracy is 15.5% hitrate, the STR is pretty equal to the attack(and not a huge impact on your damage meleeing anyway). If you plot the equations:
Y = 1.215X
Y = X + .155

X represents your accuracy, Y represents the average #/hits landed in your delay before applying either set of gear. The first equation represents wearing the haste, as it gives a flat 21.5% more attacks. The second represents wearing the accuracy gear, it gives 15.5% accuracy. If you calculate the intersection, you can see that the haste gear will outdo the accuracy gear unless your accuracy is below 72%. There is no excuse for it to be that low in any situation where COR meleeing isn't counterproductive though, if you aren't giving your party hunter's you can use sushi(even at birds, COR shouldn't be hogging hate enough to worry about losing it). But hey, you're the one who advocates COR meleeing whenever I mention /whm so I would have expected you at least know how to optimize your damage while doing it..

Oh im sorry, I forgot to add the " " to show im being sarcastic.


P.S. /WHM still sucks in merits :D

[Thorny]

Im talking about on COR with my shit 240 Skill in sword, not fucking DRK, DRG, THF or WAR >.>

Oh, I'm sorry. That post led me to believe you were being serious.

[Ohaigaiz]

Oh, I'm sorry. That post led me to believe you were being serious.

He was, right up until he figured out he got super whooshed.

[Thorny]

He was, right up until he figured out he got super whooshed.

I know, I was being sarcastic <_<

[Deader2818]

I like how people just assume my COR sucks cause I refuse to /WHM in merits. lol

[Thorny]

I like how people just assume my COR sucks cause I refuse to /WHM in merits. lol

I assume your COR sucks because you use having 240 skill as an excuse not to wear haste gear, when the haste gear is the better option. I personally preferred meritting with DD fulltiming hasso and COR/WHM(which can still melee, btw), but I have nothing against CORs with good DD builds that prefer to use DD subs. However, you seem to act elitist about COR and RNG all the time, which makes it fucking ironic that you don't even understand that increasing returns make haste more valuable than accuracy in most situations.

[Deader2818]

You have seen my Gears sets I use on COR no?

Notice how there is haste in them?

Depending on what im fighting, if im not hitting well, yes, I will take off haste gear for acc gear.

With haste spell, march, and fighters roll, I can gain TP perfectfully fine and if im hitting for shit, which is going to do better for me over all?

[Thorny]

You have seen my Gears sets I use on COR no?

Notice how there is haste in them?

I haven't, I was going off the fact that not even a page ago you used your skill to say that COR is different from A-skill DDs and said your TP seems slower without the haste gear. That alone makes you look pretty idiotic, and if it was sarcastic you wouldn't have tried to justify it by referencing your 240 skill.

[Deader2818]

I haven't, I was going off the fact that not even a page ago you used your skill to say that COR is different from A-skill DDs and said your TP seems slower without the haste gear. That alone makes you look pretty idiotic, and if it was sarcastic you wouldn't have tried to justify it by referencing your 240 skill.

When comparing 240 skill, to people that have 269+ skill, there is a different gap there. Those people can get away with keeping haste gear on harder to hit mobs cause they have a higher skill.

Like I said, if im not hitting at a well rate, whats the point of using haste gear?

[Maaglin]

I also melee with 2 behemoth rings, no acc gear at all, use /WHM all the time, I never Double Up, I use sword/dagger ws's depending on what I feel like, I rarely shoot and if I do it is with bronze bullets, I never use Quick Draw, heck sometimes I don't even equip my AF gun that I still use at 75!

When every other COR around stops doing all that come see me for using my AF head. I never said it wasn't gimp, if I want to wear my hat full time I'll wear my damn hat.

So you're gimp. But it's ok because you might be less gimp than most. Gimp is gimp. Now gtfo this thread jackass.

[Thorny]

When comparing 240 skill, to people that have 269+ skill, there is a different gap there. Those people can get away with keeping haste gear on harder to hit mobs cause they have a higher skill.

Like I said, if im not hitting at a well rate, whats the point of using haste gear?

Read 8th grade algebra posted above, insert foot in mouth, ???, STFU. Aside from that, your gear posted at http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/ffxi-...ml#post2263556 includes no haste at all and a fucking moldavite. In fact, you're TPing in potent belt too.. total of 29 acc for 14% haste, so the cutoff is actually 67% accuracy for you.

[altwight]

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

billy madison

[Rocl]

this guy has maats cap and he full timed this
http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/e...129_161312.png

SOMEONE FETCH MY SPECTACLES, THE GAUSSIAN BLUR IS TOO MUCH

[Kroot]

that guy prob hates brd and wants to go on one of his other 14 jobs

[Peffernuss]

Looks like a gimpy MP set. ;o

[Niki]

Found this while browsing the HNM LS thread of my old server, someone please tell me that its a joke..
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...desdring-1.png