19-Year-Old Commits Suicide Live on Justin.tv

[isladar]

How are we to have empathy/sympathy for everyone worldwide who are struggling with depression/anxiety/mypoopwontcomeout disorders?

I'm sorry they struggle with them, but I'm more sorry about having to hear about it.

I cannot stand people who bring up their 'unfortunates' as if that's somehow a form of meaningful conversation. I see you're dealing with your unpleasant issue by making me sit through listening to you go into far too much detail that I didn't ask for as to why you're incapable of doing whatever. Gosh, thanks.

I don't care what the name of your neurosis is, what that means for you, why it makes something 'hard', what meds you're on, what daddy did to you. Being able to share that with someone is a gift, not a ticket to sympathy, and unless I specifically ask, keep it to yourself.

The minute you think your problems are interesting is the minute you have a real problem.

[Elesirdur]

I'm sorry they struggle with them, but I'm more sorry about having to hear about it.

I cannot stand people who bring up their 'unfortunates' as if that's somehow a form of meaningful conversation. I see you're dealing with your unpleasant issue by making me sit through listening to you go into far too much detail that I didn't ask for as to why you're incapable of doing whatever. Gosh, thanks.

I don't care what the name of your neurosis is, what that means for you, why it makes something 'hard', what meds you're on, what daddy did to you. Being able to share that with someone is a gift, not a ticket to sympathy, and unless I specifically ask, keep it to yourself.

The minute you think your problems are interesting is the minute you have a real problem.

So therefore since you are airing a greivence against people with 'problems', a problem of your own, your argument would imply that you yourself have a "real problem."

Just messing with 'ya.

[aurik]

I'm sorry they struggle with them, but I'm more sorry about having to hear about it.

I cannot stand people who bring up their 'unfortunates' as if that's somehow a form of meaningful conversation. I see you're dealing with your unpleasant issue by making me sit through listening to you go into far too much detail that I didn't ask for as to why you're incapable of doing whatever. Gosh, thanks.

I don't care what the name of your neurosis is, what that means for you, why it makes something 'hard', what meds you're on, what daddy did to you. Being able to share that with someone is a gift, not a ticket to sympathy, and unless I specifically ask, keep it to yourself.

The minute you think your problems are interesting is the minute you have a real problem.

In summary,

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[Mrcloudz]

Hahaha, oh wow.
Anon delivers again.

[isladar]

Damn you, picture-to-words ratio.

[BRP]

Why do people want to see this video.

It is a dude falling asleep.

WOW HOW EXCITING

[Kuya]

So our culture is moving towards apathy towards others plights is what you're saying?

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How are we to have empathy/sympathy for everyone worldwide who are struggling with depression/anxiety/mypoopwontcomeout disorders?

No, it's not empathy, i'm well aware that how much we can care is a limit, even though there being a limit does not justify actually trying to hurt others for your satisfaction, and that's what i'm saying. Actual violence, whether it be physical or mental being exercised on others for the simple act of "being real".

I don't get what you mean with the mental disorders bit.

The internet is unique in the interactive anonymity it allows. What we're talking about here and related things require action on the part of someone; it's not a passive thing like watching a snuff film or the glorified violence/snuff presented by mainstream media outlets. I can't remember a name or specifics for the life of me, but I'm thinking of studies done where people are more likely to cause pain to others when they are out of sight (if that rings a bell for you, let me know).

I won't deny what popular culture in traditional media does/can do to sensitivities, but real person to person action, I think, is somewhat of a unique beast.

Yes, the anonymity does have its effects in so far as it multiplies the nonchalant behaviour within the net, but when it happens outside the net, then we can safely assume that it's a very complex issue that potentially has its seeds outside the net. With that said, speaking of culture that glorifies enmity between social groups, such as chavs, perhaps; as i've said before, i'm not saying that recent generations suddenly decided to act like twats, but that potentially, something within the process of social reproduction we are alienating people, and creating this nonchalant and aggressive behaviour that i often see it blamed on youth, when it is perhaps not an inherent problem created by youth itself.

[Jefe]

Ugh, I just woke up and read the title as "19-year-old communist suicides." When I was a kid another guy did a Cobain style suicide (some bs about hmo's or w/e). I was shocked and still remember it >< Anyways, because of that they implemented a delay just in case something like this happens the viewers and young audience won't be exposed to it. By the sounds of it, they don't have that over there.

[isladar]

I don't get what you mean with the mental disorders bit.

I believe he's referring to everyone and their mother having some kind of syndrome/neurosis/disorder/issue/acronym to blame their total lack of self awareness or responsibility on now.

There's a point after the fifth "I'M BIPOLAR" speech you hear from some little shit that you start to get a bit cynical.

[Penthesilea]

No, it's not empathy, i'm well aware that how much we can care is a limit, even though there being a limit does not justify actually trying to hurt others for your satisfaction, and that's what i'm saying. Actual violence, whether it be physical or mental being exercised on others for the simple act of "being real".

I don't get what you mean with the mental disorders bit.

I didn't read any of the links to the board or chat room because I'm at work, but I've always been of the school that people are cruel, especially when they sense blood. I don't have stats, I don't have documentation, but I'm sure you can find societies that aren't "western" where the weak are ostracized and humiliated and pushed into suicide. The only reason why you're saying these things is because it's publicized and sensationalized, whereas in the past it couldn't be to the degree it is today. I'm not saying it's causing more of these incidents, but that it's getting more coverage. More coverage doesn't mean we're being desensitized, we're already desensitized because we can't have empathy/sympathy for someone who we don't know.

[Ohaigaiz]

I remember an old thread of this kid wanting to commit suicide. He looked kind of geeky, curly hair and glasses. He actually went to a local store, shot like 17 people, then shot himself. Coolestshitever.

[Kiro]

Shoot 'em up.

[Kuya]

I believe he's referring to everyone and their mother having some kind of syndrome/neurosis/disorder/issue/acronym to blame their total lack of self awareness or responsibility on now.

There's a point after the fifth "I'M BIPOLAR" speech you hear from some little shit that you start to get a bit cynical.

There are so many problems with psychiatry today, what with the pharmaceutical industry being knee deep in trying to medicalize people as much as possible, people being overworked, and having a mental disease being made the "norm" with the constant barrage of how we're all diseased; it's the old self fulfilling prophecy deal that is also in effect here, but yes, i do agree with you; you can't use this mental disorder deal that everyone seems to be getting now as justification for your extremely antisocial behaviour, especially if it's being argued from this angle: "Oh, i'm genetically predisposed towards this, umm, mental disorder, so that's why i can act like an asshole".

[Callisto]

Like my Genital Libationeria Syndrome(GLS) that causes me to put my penis in peoples' drinks when they leave them sitting around. It's not that I'm an asshole, I'm just very ill.

[Kuya]

but I've always been of the school that people are cruel, especially when they sense blood.

People are innately cruel? Why and can you prove they are? Or are you just falling victim for the status quo seems quo so therefore it has always been quo? That is, if suddenly you are born into an era where every man is circumcised, you can't just go on and say that all men are born circumcised, and that they have always been born without foreskin.

but I'm sure you can find societies that aren't "western" where the weak are ostracized and humiliated and pushed into suicide.

I'm sure I can, especially if it's linked to maintaining a certain gender norm. Take for example ancient Sparta, which is one of many city-states to practice the euthanasia of deformed or handicapped infants in order to promote strength. With that said, are you justifying this sort of behaviour now with what Sparta did back then, or more yet, are you saying that what lead them to accept euthanasia of infants is the same thing that leads us to "create" the signs of social dispersion we see now?

The only reason why you're saying these things is because it's publicized and sensationalized, whereas in the past it couldn't be to the degree it is today. I'm not saying it's causing more of these incidents, but that it's getting more coverage.

I'm aware of the effect of technology on owns perspective, however, i've already taken that in account and it is still obvious that there is a different issue going on right now, one that i believe has to do with alienation of social groups, and the attempt of our social institutions to stabilize themselves with the existing of contradicting values (women's rights, existence of a gay identity which questions the innateness or justification for the masculine gender and heterocentrism).

More coverage doesn't mean we're being desensitized, we're already desensitized because we can't have empathy/sympathy for someone who we don't know.

And i've already told you that it doesn't have anything to do with the limits of our empathy/sympathy, but more to do with what i've already mentioned.

[_chuchu]

You shouldn't be on here, Kurt. You're dead.

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[Kuya]

One thing i find most contradicting about today's values is our great dislike for anything that questions our libre albedrio yet we tacitly accept our loss of free will with this proliferation of mental disorders and the ridiculous profit that pharmaceutical companies are making out of it.

[Callisto]

libre albedrio

english plz

[Xiona]

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You discussed me.

nope, i dont think they are talking about you

[Kyreth]

Happens all the time. The only difference this time is they had a webcam handy.

Then again, I'm pro-death. You feel you need to remove yourself from the world where babies and children starve to death every day for lack of resources? Go right ahead.